Champions league 09-10

[antonnn]

Every team has it's own culture... Just not every team has a great culture like Barca, Milan and so on.

 

[diegomessi]

every teams culture in itself is great just not all teams have had the success on the pitch...

 

[blueduck]

belittle you cause u debate about stuff you hardly watch

Stop being so f'ing arrogant.

Chelsea got the final over teams with FAR greater "culture" than them.

 

[diegomessi]

example Ponte Preta 109 yrs old never won a trophy, came close on about 7 times (finals and league runner up in brasil serie A) but there poor fans still fill that stadium.... and are deticated to that team

 

[AnfieldEd]

Sorry but you have all gone off the boil from my point anyway.

You all are saying that Milan are nothing now and will do nothing in europe.

My point is thus. To say this about a club, whos very essence is mixed with european football, whose very culture tells them than european football is in their DNA is foolish to say the least.

In europe Milan are a different animal to the team you all perceive right now and I am sorry only someone with half a brain would discount Milan in europe. YOU NEVER EVER discount Milan in european football.

 

[diegomessi]

this is true...and same goes for liverpool

 

[Beast]

whats wrong with athletic bilbao? seem to have culture coming out the ears

Bilbao has a political culture not a winning culture.. big difference

and now u resort to telling me what i watch on tv hmmm...

okay well the team i have season ticket for in Argentina has no culture, but they never give up and try to the very end no matter what, they are the hardestworking team i have ever seen,,, how do they do it without this mythical culture backing them?

it's a rise up that could end by the end of the current generation
u want winning culture it's in River & Boca..

take for example Boro .. they reached the UEFA cup final couple of years ago.. fans were estatic .. but most of the times Boro are happy to be in the first division only that's the club culture same for Citeh .
if Barca ended up 10th or fought the relegation zone half the players will be sold, president taken out , manager sacked .
they MUST be there among the top 4 .. they can't be satisfied with a 10th spot.. no European top football is a crisis and disaster .. and we are not talking about winning just being at the top with other teams.
if Dinho was playing in Boro , citeh,spurs.. he would be worshipped and would never leave the club .. they would withstand his lack of commitment .. but not in Milan,Barca,Real,Man U ...etc

 

[antonnn]

I think Milan will make the qtr's this year, but no further, but even then they are a danger and always a chance to make the semi's. They aren't the most successful CL side of the last 25 years for nothing! 8 finals and 5 wins?

 

[diegomessi]

of course a club needs a "winning culture" but without the players and the coach and backing of the supporters that means Fck all.. river came in 2nd to last last year after winning the title the season b4... Boca was not even in the top ten this past season

 

[AnfieldEd]

Exactly Anton, discount Milan at your peril.

 

[Beast]

of course a club needs a "winning culture" but without the players and the coach and backing of the supporters that means Fck all.. river came in 2nd to last last year after winning the title the season b4... Boca was not even in the top ten this past season

I know and to make a point.. what Did River fans feel ? did they keep their own Southgate or Hughes in charge ?
they were only saved by the weird calculation of the league designed to never push Boca or Rive to the second division

 

[sammy]

I definitely agree with beast and eddie. Culture of the club.....it's hard to describe but that's true. Milan maybe won't win CL this season, but to write them off.....wow! Even if inter team are stronger than milan, in CL, i will consider inter chance to win this season CL is smaller than milan.

Or lets compare with national team, italy for example and germany. No matter how good EPL or english player, italy and germany will have higher chance to win international trophies than england (sorry englishmen, it's true).

 

[blueduck]

Better players, better tactics and a bit of luck are what win matches. Not culture !

There is no divine reason a club would play better because of their history.

No matter how good EPL or english player, italy and germany will have higher chance to win international trophies than england (sorry englishmen, it's true).

So if we (England) put out our first team and they put out a worse team, they would still win? No matter who was playing for us?

 

[Valon]

What some people don't get here is that nobody is saying that Milan doesn't have a winning mentality and culture, we're just saying they don't have enough quality to be successful in this CL year, I mean look at their team and their coach.

 

[diegomessi]

i will not jude ac milan by their godawful preseason... i will hold judgement until after this weekend etoo vs ronnie