Champions League 2022/2023

Who will win the CL?


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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Ruiz and Renato for once, are far from shit mate
A decent coach could have worked wonders with them, and with Veratti of course

They might be far worse than shit, mate.
They can't escape pressure to save their life, they can't control tempo. Their previous teams are doing better now without them.
Renato and Ruiz are b2b midfielders, at best you need one of those in big games but elite one, Soler is a midfielder/winger. Except he isn't good enough which makes him a tweener rather than a versatile, an Arda/Denis type of player. Vitinha looked decent but he is a more of an Arthur with potential rather than a Xavi or Iniesta.
It was simply a wasted resources for this club.

Their midfield niether got their attackers the ball, niether protected the defense.
It is more like blaming Messi and ignore Busquets role in humiliations.
 

Rory

Senior Member
Messi needs to at the very least jog towards the opposition at all times. Teams feel completely confident and unrestricted in being in possession anywhere around him.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Only a 3-4-1-2 would bring the best version imo.

In the middle Vitinha looked good in the first half of the season as he just needs to be mobile and cover ground and let Messi and Neymar do the creative work.

Yesterday they played their best with those 3 in attack btw, I think trying to sacrifice attack for another shit midfielder cost them a lot.
Don't know how Ektite is doing, but think he might have been better starting than Soler
 

soul24rage

Senior Member
Yesterday they played their best with those 3 in attack btw, I think trying to sacrifice attack for another shit midfielder cost them a lot.
Don't know how Ektite is doing, but think he might have been better starting than Soler

Oh yeah, I meant the 3-4-1-2 that Galtier deployed in the first half of the season with MNM upfront and Veratti and Vitinha as the midfield 2.

PSG was solid in the first half of the season.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
They might be far worse than shit, mate.
They can't escape pressure to save their life, they can't control tempo. Their previous teams are doing better now without them.
Renato and Ruiz are b2b midfielders, at best you need one of those in big games but elite one, Soler is a midfielder/winger. Except he isn't good enough which makes him a tweener rather than a versatile, an Arda/Denis type of player. Vitinha looked decent but he is a more of an Arthur with potential rather than a Xavi or Iniesta.
It was simply a wasted resources for this club.

Their midfield niether got their attackers the ball, niether protected the defense.
It is more like blaming Messi and ignore Busquets role in humiliations.

You are wrong in some of the things you write

1) The PSG midfield yesterday defended well, as their backline did. They defended very deep and did as much as they could.
Problem was the reason why their coach opted for such conservative tactics to begin with,
tactics reminiscent of EV in his glory European nights at Barca, but with much better defending than Busi-Raki in front of Pique-Lenglet

I have a hint for you: the fact that he has to accommodate for 2 deadweights upfront who don't press, don't run, and wait close to the halfway line to receive, while the other 8 have to do everything for them. In modern football you can't press even with 9, let alone with 8 players. The only solution is parking a deep bus, and hoping that some long balls will find those 2 close to the halfway line and they will make sth happen on the counter

2) Veratti is an elite md in controlling tempo of games. Most decent teams in Europe have only 1 such md, which is accommodated by other md profiles doing other things.
Renato is b2b, you are right, but far more competent on escaping pressure than what you imply here:
He is a beast box2box, dynamic, good on any kind of running with the ball and off the ball, powerful shot outside the box, and wonderful in winning all duels
If he has a problem it's his injury proness

Ruiz is technically gifted, and a md could work wonders with him if he is used correctly. He is not a deep-lying DM, he is more of CAM who needs ball to feet to find wonderful passes through angles, and strike the ball wonderfully outside of the box
Like Napoli used him last year

It's even more interesting that these 3 (Verrati Renato Ruiz) combined have a perfect blend of different qualities a md needs, control, pressure evasion, dynamism, physicality, short passing, long passing, shooting from outside the box
It's so depressing that so many of you choose to go down this line of finding someone to blame just to whitewash Messi...

It's actually scandalous that so many wonderful players are wasted in a setup that doesn't suit them, and everything in this sick club is geared towards serving their sacred cows.
Their mentality from top down, from the Emir and Doha hierarchy to the team on the field is rotten.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Laugh at us......


Enjoy our misery.....


Celebrate our losses.....

....But you can't deny that we have a special luck in this competition just like RM do. Something special about the word "Liverpool" and the phrase "European Nights".


Let's go. This season we are fucked and it is very much CL or bust. Never underestimate Liverpool in the UCL. We're the underdogs to win it. Fingers crossed.


YNWA.
 

fergus90

Senior Member
Napoli, the Aston Villa of Italy?! Aston Pizza! :mou: :clown:

I gotta be honest, I barely watched them until this season but I love the Osimhen & Kvaratskhelia connection and they play some wonderful football, so I'm backing them. Found myself watching a lot of their games recently.

I generally like to see all English clubs do well in Europe though, bar Chelsea - never liked them for reasons I don't know :lol:
 

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