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if you will resolve to Madrisimo as a point of debate.. u'r really have nothing to add to the discussion
you have every right to believe and others have the right to evaluate teams in non-biased terms..
has nothing to do with talents as much as the team play.. you have crashed out against EPL teams in the last years except the year you won the CL .. these are facts not passion.. they are dominant in Europe..might have to do with their style/team work..etc at the end it gives La liga teams a hard time and they prevailed in most of the times..
if you ask if Barca had more quality then Man U last year or Liverpool the year before it.. the answer would be yes.. but it was them who went through even with crap tactics like the ones Man U applied against u or Arsenal in the final...
the only denial you are living in if you think the best talents win.. cause neither did the Galacticos win 3 back to Back CL nor Barca won back to back CL with Dinho & Co or Messi & Co...
Your madridismo is relevant because it prevents you from being objective. The defeats to Liverpool and United bear no relation to this year's side because those were Barça sides on a downward slide under Rijkaard, this team under Pep is on the up and is a cohesive team. Your madridismo is relevant again because you choose to resort to saying "la liga teams". Barça's style is far more effective in Europe than that of other La Liga sides, that's why we're the most successful over the past 6 years. The league styles aren't relevant here, nor are past seasons, we need to analyse the strengths and weaknesses of teams at this moment in time and a chelski side that lacks pace and tries to make up for it with physical intimidation doesn't strike me as an impossible task for Barça. Lyon played a very physical game in both legs and lost, Barça had a full strength midfield with some serious physical players and we overcame it, this side can live with physicality and Chelski's style doesn't have the zip and verve of Liverpool or United, hence why I believe we will defeat them in both games.