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FinBarcelonafan

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Just a question, what will be considered as Messi's fail at PSG?
No CL will be a failure, right?
I mean, CR7's failure to win with Juve who didn't win it since 1996 is considered as a fail.

Just to follow the story in upcoming months.

** I just hope there won't be: "Psg had unbalanced midfield, it was not Messi's fault" excuses.

His wall defending says enough at his time at Juve.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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Both are pretty stupid takes imo, it's a team sport. Nobody in their right mind could expect Juve to win the CL, and even though Messi went to a better team we all know there are no guarantees for success in football.

Both are in their mid 30s and have nothing left to proof, but if anything it'll be about individual performance, not titles.

This.

PSG is mostly favourite on paper, but I doubt they win. Not a team. We tried same Galacticos style and it failed miserably. Team needs to play together.

Even Barca the past few years had very talented inviduals but couldn't beat teams with proper tactics and team play. Team is stronger than few great inviduals, especially top level were margins are still small.
 

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fergus90

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Rassvet

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Just a question, what will be considered as Messi's fail at PSG?
No CL will be a failure, right?
I mean, CR7's failure to win with Juve who didn't win it since 1996 is considered as a fail.

Just to follow the story in upcoming months.

** I just hope there won't be: "Psg had unbalanced midfield, it was not Messi's fault" excuses.

CR didn't fail by not winning the CL but by getting knocked out early vs bum teams
 

JamDav1982

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Ronaldo was performing well above his Juve team mates in majority of CL runs. Couldnt have done much more.

Best player ever in that tournament.

If he was at PSG folk would be bitching about choosing the easy league and desperation for a CL. If Messi was in EPL it would all be about him choosing the difficult move.
 

JohnN

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I would say making the majority of Juve fans to want him out of the club is a kind of failure but he is too old to judge now. If most of PSG fans want Messi out in a year or two, we can say he failed in the same way.
I don't think these guys need to prove to anyone their real value. The did so in their prime years as all other players. Whatever they achieve in the twilight of their career is just a cherry on top.
 

Rassvet

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Ronaldo was performing well above his Juve team mates in majority of CL runs. Couldnt have done much more.

Best player ever in that tournament.

If he was at PSG folk would be bitching about choosing the easy league and desperation for a CL. If Messi was in EPL it would all be about him choosing the difficult move.

What CL runs? Anyway, he was great his first season in the knockouts but then dropped consecutive disasterclasses culminating in his WOAT display vs Porto.
 

JamDav1982

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What CL runs? Anyway, he was great his first season in the knockouts but then dropped consecutive disasterclasses culminating in his WOAT display vs Porto.

CL runs.

Poor v Porto as Messi was horrendous in many more eliminations in recent years.

Happens to them all.

The man mastered the CL more than anyone has. Gi him a break.
 

Devils

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It's just next level man.

One of the greatest returns I have ever seen in sport. Man literally restored Old Trafford from the graveyard it was over the last decade.

Iconic.
 

Rassvet

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CL runs.

Poor v Porto as Messi was horrendous in many more eliminations in recent years.

Happens to them all.

Only Roma from Messi can compare to CR vs Porto and even that wasn't as bad. 210 minutes vs Porto with them down a man for 60 of them and his only contribution was turning his back and getting megged on the winning freekick.
 

JamDav1982

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Only Roma from Messi can compare to CR vs Porto and even that wasn't as bad. 210 minutes vs Porto with them down a man for 60 of them and his only contribution was turning his back and getting megged on the winning freekick.

Disagree.

Messi invisible v plenty of teams and had nowhere near number of ties turned up as Ronaldo in knock outs.

The better CL player is no contest at this point.
 
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