Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Yes, you are, I think. Playmakers last longer. When Messi loses his explosiveness and fails to get behind defenders as easily as now to score goals you can still put him behind a striker and even at 35 he will be able to ping passes around and create chances. His excellent first touch and game intelligence will also remain. Watch Maradona in 1994 when he was 34, fat and full of drugs and what happened to Argentina after he got suspended.

I see Messi without goals, acceleration, and dribbling as a Riquelme. When Ronaldo loses his explosiveness and pace I don't know what he'll do. His game revolves around movement and pace to run into space to get at the end of passes. If he can't lose his marker as easily as now that'll be it for him. He's very similar to Torres and Kaka in that respect who also relied on their explosiveness and once that was lost they struggled mightily.

In theory I agree with you, yes Messi has the skills, vision etc. to be a great playmaker (he wears that hat for us already sometimes). However, that's based on the assumption that physically Messi will still be able to handle it. The playmaker role needs very high work rate, running all over the place. Will Messi be able to handle that kind of work rate? He is used to walking and running for only about 7 km a game.

I just have this feeling that Messi's body is not going to sustain that many more years of wear and tear compared to CR7's and he doesn't take care of it as much as CR7 does, maybe it is the lack of interest or discipline. That red meat at the post-Clasico BBQ we saw? :shakeshead:
 

Catorce

Cruijff's Heir
Keep going - Your convo is great. I just want to mention an un related comment.
'Ronaldo really is Penaldo. I mean since the start of 2010-11 season 20.6% of his goals have been Penalty kicks.

Where can I find those statistics? I really want a source for more detailed statistics but can't seem to find it :(
 

Galning

Moderator
Messi is finished. He no longer has the desire to be a professional player. Eating red meat.. What the hell?
Ronaldo Ballon d'Or 2013, Madrid CL champions! LA DECIMA!, Liga champions, Copa del Rey, Portugal world champions in Brazil! I can see Barcelona relegating to be honest.. Just heard Piqué was handing out lollypops on the team bus :s
 

Meitux

Active member
Messi is finished. He no longer has the desire to be a professional player. Eating red meat.. What the hell?
Ronaldo Ballon d'Or 2013, Madrid CL champions! LA DECIMA!, Liga champions, Copa del Rey, Portugal world champions in Brazil! I can see Barcelona relegating to be honest.. Just heard Piqué was handing out lollypops on the team bus :s
:tata1: :troll:
 

suckabov

Lemon curry?
Messi is finished. He no longer has the desire to be a professional player. Eating red meat.. What the hell?
Ronaldo Ballon d'Or 2013, Madrid CL champions! LA DECIMA!, Liga champions, Copa del Rey, Portugal world champions in Brazil! I can see Barcelona relegating to be honest.. Just heard Piqué was handing out lollypops on the team bus :s
Most importantly, Messi has never proven himself in a different league, while Ronaldo has performed on a world-class level both for RM and United. If it wasn't for FIFA's favouring Messi, he wouldn't be worth 10 million euros. Now it seems his continuous doping as a teenager finally takes its toll.
 

barca1899

New member
Most importantly, Messi has never proven himself in a different league, while Ronaldo has performed on a world-class level both for RM and United. If it wasn't for FIFA's favouring Messi, he wouldn't be worth 10 million euros. Now it seems his continuous doping as a teenager finally takes its toll.

Don't forget that Cristiano is a more complete player, Messi doesn't score goals like this.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Messi is finished. He no longer has the desire to be a professional player. Eating red meat.. What the hell?
Ronaldo Ballon d'Or 2013, Madrid CL champions! LA DECIMA!, Liga champions, Copa del Rey, Portugal world champions in Brazil! I can see Barcelona relegating to be honest.. Just heard Piqué was handing out lollypops on the team bus :s

Drama. Sarcasm. Galning you will make a great actor.

Flavia confirmed that he is supposed to cut red meat out of his diet to aviod injuries. Is he not listening to his own dietician?
 

pEllee

New member
I'm sorry, but nutrition and training is something that interests me and that just sounds weird.

Why would red meat make him more prone to injuries?
 

suckabov

Lemon curry?
Don't forget that Cristiano is a more complete player, Messi doesn't score goals like this.

Not only that; he wouldn't score any goals if it wasn't for Xavi and Iniesta. Messi is nothing without them. The whole Barca team is built so much around Messi it's not even funny. Ronaldo can win games on his own, like he did against Atletico.
 

Meitux

Active member
Not only that; he wouldn't score any goals if it wasn't for Xavi and Iniesta. Messi is nothing without them. The whole Barca team is built so much around Messi it's not even funny. Ronaldo can win games on his own, like he did against Atletico.
And Ronaldo has better hair of course.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
All the kidding aside, I think we should be able to objectively comment on CR7's perfect physical condition, his consistency (in that he has not slowed down yet) and his drive to succeed without being mocked.
 
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Flavia

Guest
All the kidding aside, I think we should be able to objectively comment on CR7's perfect physical condition, his consistency (in that he has not slowed down yet) and his drive to succeed without being mocked.

His hateful character often makes people not be objective about him. I dislike him a lot, but he is an amazing footballer. I posted this here before. Still, he hasn't done anything worthy of the bdor this year.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Absolutely Flavia, he is not very likeable as a person, but he is definitely a great player that will go down as one of the best. It is OK for us Barca fans to admit that.
 

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