Heisenberg is cooking
New member
Ad hominem.
Eetu
Adormit
Sorry to hear that. But wouldn't a small operation fix it nowadays?
CuleLife4Life
Active member
I'm a proud cule but not delusional. Messi is better than Ronaldo but Ronaldo is still one of the best. He and Messi are the only players in today's game that would make it on the first page of a list of legends
Neeraj
Senior Member
Carlo Ancelloti - " This Ballon D'Or is obvious. We should be talking about next year's award because this one is obvious. People forget that he scored 17 goals in the Champions League and was key to win."
http://www.managingmadrid.com/2014/11/21/7258805/ancelotti-press-conference-eibar-real-madrid
The propaganda to get Penaldo the award is fully underway. I am guessing this is just another one of those things Messi must be looking at, and thinking to himself how shit he is treated in comparison.
http://www.managingmadrid.com/2014/11/21/7258805/ancelotti-press-conference-eibar-real-madrid
The propaganda to get Penaldo the award is fully underway. I am guessing this is just another one of those things Messi must be looking at, and thinking to himself how shit he is treated in comparison.
Bertus
New member
Dunno really. Ronaldo is doing good and pointing his 17 goals in CL is not part of any propaganda. It's not as if those stats were made up.
As I said, one could argue Messi at his peak is better than Ronaldo (that's what I believe anyways), but right now, one could argue Ronaldo does a better job on the field than Messi for quite some times now.
They can't give the Ballon d'Or to Messi every years just because at his peak he is the best footballer in history.
That said, I would have given the Ballon d'Or to Neuer, and not Ronaldo.
The WC happens every four years, and Neuer was totally incredible. Still remember his block on benzema rocket shot. Arms of steel.
As I said, one could argue Messi at his peak is better than Ronaldo (that's what I believe anyways), but right now, one could argue Ronaldo does a better job on the field than Messi for quite some times now.
They can't give the Ballon d'Or to Messi every years just because at his peak he is the best footballer in history.
That said, I would have given the Ballon d'Or to Neuer, and not Ronaldo.
The WC happens every four years, and Neuer was totally incredible. Still remember his block on benzema rocket shot. Arms of steel.
Neeraj
Senior Member
No I don't mean he is saying anything wrong. What I'm talking about is the concerted effort from all layers at the club starting from the players to the president, to pitch Ronaldo as the obvious choice for the award, coming out and making their stand unequivocally.
I'm not even arguing that Ronaldo doesn't deserve it or whatever, that's a different discussion. I'm just thinking, Messi doesn't get a fraction of such support from us. Okay the coach comes out after some games and says he is the best etc etc. but nothing like this. Truth be told, Messi hasn't needed any support because he has been so far ahead of Ronaldo anyway. I don't really care about the award, but it just irks me that the board can't even come out and support him when there are stupid allegations about him flying left, right and centre.
Bertus
New member
I disagree, I think that Messi would need the board and coach to come out more often to praise him. Any extra push to move forward is good, whether you're named Messi or not.
Even Nasser at PSG comes out more often to praise his players.
I actually think Messi WANTS the club to come out and say he's the best of the best. The board and coach should not give the feeling they don't care as if "messi's perfs were normal so no point to discuss it".
Caps
Member
Coaches supporting players this way is great, but lol at key to CL win. He really wasnt. 17 goals and not key.. Hes an anomaly that Cristiano.
Blaugrana Bull
HiiiPoWeR
People forget that he scored the majority of his CL goals last year and not this year.
Neeraj
Senior Member
No, I also agree that they should come out and support him. My point was that at his peak 4 back to back balon period, he was only competing against the past, nobody in the present. He was on another level. So it didn't really matter. Now, there are issues, when the chips are down, that's when your board and fans should support you. What's the point of the board otherwise?
messi2140
6racies Xavi
Exactly, when messi scored in 19 consecutive matches in la liga no one used it as an argument becuase the majority was in 2012 not 2013.
Speaking of which, how many consecutive matches have Ronaldo scored in la liga now, 14?
footyfan
Calma, calma
Pretty sure both players had it quite evenly split between the 2 years.
Messi (19 consecutive matches) 2012 - 13 goals, 2013 - 17 goals
Ronaldo (2013/14 CL) 2013 - 9 goals, 2014 - 8 goals.
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