Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

MaxY

Devil May Cry
Messi won 3 tackles vs Manchester City yesterday, as much as Cristiano (28 appearances) has won all this season in Liga (2) and CL (1).

Best athlete eva

Ronaldo doesn't even tackle. That's like comparing heading of Messi & Ronaldo. That diving header pretty much sums it up.
 
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linetty

Guest
Ronaldo doesn't even tackle. That's like comparing heading of Messi & Ronaldo. That diving header pretty much sums it up.
Cmon. Considering Messi's height he's not that bad at heading.

Tackling isn't dependent on height.
 
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Gasgas

Guest
Or the header Ronaldo scored in the CL final... oh wait that was Messi

Ronaldo scored a header in the ucl final vs chelsea, and also in the copa del rey final vs us.
Whatever it is you just dont take penalty tacking, and heading away from ronaldo he is best at those, while messi is best at many other things!
 

MaxY

Devil May Cry
I say that it's pointless to compare heading and tackling then as an argument this guy compares heading.. Wow..
 
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linetty

Guest
It's pointless to compare heading because it's heavily dependent on height. It's not pointless to compare tackling on the other hand.
 

Morten

Senior Member
It's pointless to compare heading because it's heavily dependent on height. It's not pointless to compare tackling on the other hand.

Not quite the same, but dribbling also depend alot on height, the smaller you are the chances are you will be a better dribbler. Messi is the best dribbler i have seen regardless, but its kind of unfair to compare Ronaldo to guys like him, Iniesta or Isco for that matter. He could be a better dribbler than currently, but he certainly cant match the controll of some of the small guys no matter what.
 

Kerrybai

New member
Not quite the same, but dribbling also depend alot on height, the smaller you are the chances are you will be a better dribbler. Messi is the best dribbler i have seen regardless, but its kind of unfair to compare Ronaldo to guys like him, Iniesta or Isco for that matter. He could be a better dribbler than currently, but he certainly cant match the controll of some of the small guys no matter what.

Well they have a lower centre of gravity, but guys like ronaldo can use their pace, in fact Ronaldo used be a decent dribbler. I'll always have a liking for the old Ronaldo of United that used to dribble, he was a fun player and a far more entertaining one the the current Ronaldo, although the current one is a machine.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Well they have a lower centre of gravity, but guys like ronaldo can use their pace, in fact Ronaldo used be a decent dribbler. I'll always have a liking for the old Ronaldo of United that used to dribble, he was a fun player and a far more entertaining one the the current Ronaldo, although the current one is a machine.

Let say Messi suddenly was 186 cm, there is no way he would be as good as a dribbler as he is at 169cm, laws of physics. Im sure he would be better than Ronaldo at dribbling still, but low centre of gravity is quite important for dribbling. There are exceptions here and there, but the best dribblers in the world are almost exclusively small. Dont think Ronaldo is a bad dribbler like some people say, its just that when he is about to go past a player he always go for free kick these days, so his actually dribbling stats are higher than what the charts shows.
 

Kerrybai

New member
Let say Messi suddenly was 186 cm, there is no way he would be as good as a dribbler as he is at 169cm, laws of physics. Im sure he would be better than Ronaldo at dribbling still, but low centre of gravity is quite important for dribbling. There are exceptions here and there, but the best dribblers in the world are almost exclusively small. Dont think Ronaldo is a bad dribbler like some people say, its just that when he is about to go past a player he always go for free kick these days, so his actually dribbling stats are higher than what the charts shows.

If he goes for the free than that's his own fault and it reflects his dribbling, maybe he feels he can no longer beat players like he used to? Like I said he was a pretty good dribbler before but now he's very very mediocre in this regard. It's not that important now thought as he becomes a true number 9.
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
Both Ronaldinho and Ronaldo were tall. Zidane was even taller than both. Zlatan was an exceptional dribbler too and he is very tall. It is first and foremost a talent, and with persisting training it can become world class.

Ronaldo didn't focus on power-dribbling (a term I coined), he focused on show boating and then realized he likes scoring a lot more. When Sir Alex gave him the scoring role it is because he knew Ronaldo's delivery didn't match the effort he put in with making fancy dribbles.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Both Ronaldinho and Ronaldo were tall. Zidane was even taller than both. Zlatan was an exceptional dribbler too and he is very tall. It is first and foremost a talent, and with persisting training it can become world class.

Ronaldo didn't focus on power-dribbling (a term I coined), he focused on show boating and then realized he likes scoring a lot more. When Sir Alex gave him the scoring role it is because he knew Ronaldo's delivery didn't match the effort he put in with making fancy dribbles.

Ronaldo and Ronaldinho had pretty average height, no? I said there exist exceptions to the rule, but big players are very rarely better dribblers than short ones and for good reasons. Its a talent, but to think inherent physical condition doesnt have agrwat deal to so with it is just laughable.
 

Kerrybai

New member
Ronaldo and Ronaldinho had pretty average height, no? I said there exist exceptions to the rule, but big players are very rarely better dribblers than short ones and for good reasons. Its a talent, but to think inherent physical condition doesnt have agrwat deal to so with it is just laughable.

Ronaldo was 6 ft , Dihno about 5ft 11. Cristiano is about 6ft 1 inch.

The first 2 were amazing dribblers, having a lower centre of gravity helps but Cristiano just simply isn't a great dribbler, he was better before but never great and he's very average now.
 

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