Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

[jiopi]

Henry > Cronaldo atm. Cronaldo is still behind in team achievements, despite playing 4 seasons in world's costliest team. Cronaldo scores after taking millionbillion shots from his team mates, Henry was one of the most efficient scorers there is. Cronaldo can't create anything, almost 80% of his goals are directly assisted, I think Henry was more creative than that.

 

[Darwin]

As a Ronaldo hater (almost), here's what I think about his abilities, and then you guys tell me what you think about my views on him.

I think he is physically one of the best ever, maybe even the best that has ever been.. His speed, height, power of shot.. But as for his skills alone, I think he is complete garbage.. No passing ability, lousy scoring ability (and what I mean here is aiming ability), can't dribble (his "dribbling" is basically speed), lousy ball control, crappy awareness, etc... I think skill wise, he is among the worse in Real Madrid..

But then.... Since everything gets multiplied by his amazing physical characteristics (and his stinky personality traits), this now suddenly makes him a top 10 (probably even top 5) players in the world at this moment.. So he don't know how to aim (always shoots at a goalie), but has a very powerful shot, he can't dribble, but is quick, he has no ball control, but is the biggest diver this planet has ever seen and so he drops even at the slightest contact...., has no passing ability, yet he just shoots at a goal on every opportunity instead..

On top of that he plays for team Ronaldo, he plays only for his statistics. He knows statistics is a way to personal glory. HE knows he needs those ~50 goals.... So his answer, just shoot at a goal at every opportunity and given his powerful shot, some are bound to go in... But the real gold is at times when Madrid is 2 goals up.. Then the opposition breaks down, loses all their hope and stops playing.... And those are the golden minutes... Then this guy starts playing like a motherfucka, litteraly... He starts camping almost on a goal line, waiting for his easy goals or whatnot.. And they always come.. He always gets his 2 easy goals...

Oh, and did I mention penalties?

So there you go..

 

[KhaledBarca]

Xavi is a legend no doubt, and he is one of the best midfielders ever! But in my book Ronaldo ends up in a higher place, why? I simply think he is the better footballer, we have to think objective. Cristiano is on a different level, Messi of course still being the better one. Ronaldo deserves credit. That is why it is also hard to compare a defender to an attacker, midfielder to an attacker etc.

Better footballer than Xavi and Iniesta! HOW?
Cristiano is a great goalscorer that's it, Xavi and Iniesta (MIDFIELDERS) are better at every other aspect of the game.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

You guys underrated Ronaldo so much.

Can't pass or dribble or aim shots? Just because all he uses is stepovers and chops, doesn't mean he doesn't do them well, with those particular moves he's one of the best dribblers in the world. Sure, his close control isn't close to the likes of Messi, Neymar, Ribery and so on, but that doesn't mean he's bad at dribbling. As for passing, he is, again, not anywhere near the level that we've come to expect of all "good" players given that we're Barcelona fans, but he's certainly not bad at it.

These are good assists here; Messi, Iniesta, Cesc, Ozil will all have a better highlight reels than that, but for the role that Ronaldo performs in his squad, it's more than satisfactory. That takes us to the goals part. Shoots right at the keeper? Can't aim? Just because his shots are powerful doesn't mean he doesn't aim them...

He's definitely not better than Messi, and wouldn't make my all-time starting XI, but he has been one of the most dangerous attacking players over the last seven years and deserves a spot in history.

 

[Gohan]

I know we aren't Real fans but saying Ronaldo has no ball control is 'only' a good goalscorer pushes it a bit too far imo.

As I said, I honestly wouldn't know how to compare Ronaldo to Xavi/Iniesta

 

[Gohan]

You guys underrated Ronaldo so much.

Can't pass or dribble or aim shots? Just because all he uses is stepovers and chops, doesn't mean he doesn't do them well, with those particular moves he's one of the best dribblers in the world. Sure, his close control isn't close to the likes of Messi, Neymar, Ribery and so on, but that doesn't mean he's bad at dribbling. As for passing, he is, again, not anywhere near the level that we've come to expect of all "good" players given that we're Barcelona fans, but he's certainly not bad at it.

These are good assists here; Messi, Iniesta, Cesc, Ozil will all have a better highlight reels than that, but for the role that Ronaldo performs in his squad, it's more than satisfactory. That takes us to the goals part. Shoots right at the keeper? Can't aim? Just because his shots are powerful doesn't mean he doesn't aim them...

He's definitely not better than Messi, and wouldn't make my all-time starting XI, but he has been one of the most dangerous attacking players over the last seven years and deserves a spot in history.

Thank you for that post!

 

[MagIX]

On top of that he plays for team Ronaldo, he plays only for his statistics. He knows statistics is a way to personal glory.

I agree.
He doesent give a shit about Real Madrid, he plays exclusively for his personal glory, waer the RM short is for him like wear an Armani short. He stay at Madrid because RM ist the richest football club in the world, and he knows that the club will always be competitive by spending huge sums of money.

Better footballer than Xavi and Iniesta! HOW?
Cristiano is a great goalscorer that's it, Xavi and Iniesta (MIDFIELDERS) are better at every other aspect of the game.

I totally agree with you

 

[raskolnikov]

Iniesta and Ronaldo are basically opposites in ever way imaginable.

The guy isnt bad at dribbling/passing by the way but compared to Messi he is, he is a better version of Sheva for me but not a player that will open up a game when your team struggles and he doesnt score.
He is playing poorly this season but his goal stats hide it partially.
His style is a double edged sword for Madrid.

 

[KhaledBarca]

Only forwards that I rate higher are Maradona, Pele and R9

Messi, Pele, Gerd Muller, Eusebio, Romario, Puskas, Di Stefano, Ronaldo, Van Basten

Maradona, Cruyff, Garrincha, Platini, Zico, Xavi, Iniesta, Best, Zidane, Laudrup, Matthaus, Beckenbaeur, Gento, Socrates, Ronaldinho...

I might have forgot some...

These players are easily better than Cristiano in terms of Football skills and achievements...

 

[Yannick03]

Messi, Pele, Gerd Muller, Eusebio, Romario, Puskas, Di Stefano, Ronaldo, Van Basten

Maradona, Cruyff, Garrincha, Platini, Zico, Xavi, Iniesta, Best, Zidane, Laudrup, Matthaus, Beckenbaeur, Gento, Socrates, Ronaldinho...

I might have forgot some...

These players are easily better than Cristiano in terms of Football skills and achievements...

The great Roberto Baggio too belongs in that list, Cristiano doesn't.

 

[KhaledBarca]

Maybe... I didn't include him cause in terms of achievements he failed to win UCL or a WC.
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IMO, in terms of football skills. Currently, only Iniesta comes close to Messi [vision, passing, creating chances and dribbling]. Iniesta could have played the false 9 role if was a good finisher! Also, Messi is better physically which allows him to be a more effective dribbler!


About Cristiano, people mention that he's better physically than Messi. If this is true, why does Messi stay on his feet when Cristiano falls down after one contact and sometimes without any contact

 

[footyfan]

If we're basing on overall play, then yes I would probably take Henry over Ronaldo but the game's not just about skill. If it were just overall play, Gerd Muller would've been forgotten by history

 

[jamrock]

ronaldo is certainly in the top 25 ever and is better than henry, his consistency is no joke, even if he needs a million shots to score, henry's achievements that would put him above ronaldo WC And euros aren't comps that henry stood out in, he was just a good member of the team.

Xavi top 15, iniesta 1 above Zidane were ever you put him, so if your one of those stupidos who places zidane in the top 5, your saying iniesta is top 4.

 

[Caps]

About Cristiano, people mention that he's better physically than Messi. If this is true, why does Messi stay on his feet when Cristiano falls down after one contact and sometimes without any contact

Because he chooses to go down. That has nothing to do with what he is able to do.

ronaldo is certainly in the top 25 ever

Yup.. in terms of goal scoring and value to a team. Ronaldo is so effective because four main things: his determination, shot, physicality and good runs.
His actual level of football is sub par for someone considered 2nd best in the world. Ronaldo is a great goal scoring machine, but he is not a great footballer. Would I have in in my team, especially if I needed short term results? Hell yeah, a million times over.

But Ronaldo is nowhere near as talented as Iniesta, never mind Messi.

Whoever it was who said Ronaldo actually benefits from being in messis shadow in on the money; and I've been saying it for years now. People talk about him as being the would-be greatest if not for Messi, which weirdly puts him on the same plane as Messi. It elevates Ronaldo up to a level that he simply isn't on.

 

[jamrock]

I don't think he benefits from being in the same generation as messi at all, if there was no messi, he would have won at least two CL, 4 league titles back to back and about 5 golden balls back to back, put all that together and without messi, he would be considered what messi is today, one of the top 5 players ever