Daniel Alves

spark

New member
He was such dumpster shit today. The time we were most under pressure, they just waltzed down his flank and did whatever the hell they wanted. He was the reason for all 3 of Madrid's goals, he was the reason Di Maria nearly took away a MOTM award had it not been for Leo, he was the reason that motherfucking Benzema nearly had a hat trick in El Clasico!!!!

2nd half he wasn't AS bad (did concede a penalty) and had one good shot but that was because Madrid had very few chances to score and we were in total control. He's no defender and it's so hilarious how his apologetic fanboys try to relieve him of his responsibilities by saying crap like "It's not his job to defend anyway, he's our extra midfielder" or "Neymar wasn't helping".

Very disappointed. He has qualities that are vital for us (his linkup, the way he drives our play forward) but as an overall player he's declined so much.

What is hilarious is that he'll be the first to criticise the fans the minute they don't meet his high standards. Anybody but present day Alves can criticize fans effort. Such a detestable attitude on and off the field
 

serghei

Senior Member
The usual Alves bashing. To a degree, he deserves it, but people forget so fast that in the first clasico this season he was arguably MOTM. When you only show up for criticism, and not for praise too - when it's the case -, something is not right.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
The usual Alves bashing. To a degree, he deserves it, but people forget so fast that in the first clasico this season he was arguably MOTM. When you only show up for criticism, and not for praise too - when it's the case -, something is not right.

Vice versa is also true. You only show up for praise and never for criticism. And there have been more instances of criticism than praise these days. And then he has the gall to criticise fans. Horrible attitude. He like many in the team are clinging to past glories
 

coura

Banned
My lord, such trashing to a barça player....shameful.
He recognize that he hadn´t a good performance. In the benzema goals the main culprit is midget mascherano. If he has taller he would easily head the ball away.
 

coura

Banned
Vice versa is also true. You only show up for praise and never for criticism. And there have been more instances of criticism than praise these days. And then he has the gall to criticise fans. Horrible attitude. He like many in the team are clinging to past glories

Barça fans are not supportive. Just look at this forum. Horrendous, ludicrous and pathetic. See the papers commens by fans. Insults, sell everyone, fire everyone. Just brainfarting witn non-stop.
A great team like this deserved better fans. Take a look at liverpool and learn. No league title for 20 years always there. In here you dont play great you are instant shit.

barça is a monster who destroys himself. A pity.
 

Fibonacci

New member
Ronaldo was quite well contained. And yeah he didn't do that well against Di Maria, but he was exposed on his wing, which is a massive issue against a team like Madrid. In fact that's a reason why Pedro or Alexis should've probably started.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Barça fans are not supportive. Just look at this forum. Horrendous, ludicrous and pathetic. See the papers commens by fans. Insults, sell everyone, fire everyone. Just brainfarting witn non-stop.
A great team like this deserved better fans. Take a look at liverpool and learn. No league title for 20 years always there. In here you dont play great you are instant shit.

barça is a monster who destroys himself. A pity.

I maintain that we shouldn't sell Alves and that when we are in control of a match, he's a very useful asset in attack (aside from his crosses) but that doesn't absolve him of his ever-growing list of flaws. Anytime we're in control, he does well (vs Madrid in the 1st half of the season, vs City, etc.) but any time that we are on the receiving end of pressure, his instability is shown.

The worst part was how many times I saw him jogging in defense as Di Maria had passed him up and was delivering crosses to Benzema on a plate. Zero effort, that's not really worthy of much appreciation is it? It's not only that his game was horrendous today (the center of every defensive mishap), it's that he didn't even give it his all. I can forgive him if he's working his ass off equally on both ends, but that clearly wasn't the case. Being bad in defense is one thing, all Barca fans are used to that. Being absent however, is more frustrating.
 

ryuken

Senior Member
The talk bout support again? So to sum up for all the fans of Alves, when you play good you get praise, when you play bad, you get protection? Any form of criticism will translate into not being supportive of the club?
 

Qonny

New member
Barça fans are not supportive. Just look at this forum. Horrendous, ludicrous and pathetic. See the papers commens by fans. Insults, sell everyone, fire everyone. Just brainfarting witn non-stop.
A great team like this deserved better fans. Take a look at liverpool and learn. No league title for 20 years always there. In here you dont play great you are instant shit.

barça is a monster who destroys himself. A pity.

So you are basically saying that people on this forum represent all Barca fans? This is a discussion forum, and people have the right to get upset when what they care about is not functioning as desired. There are some cases of un-called for flaming of the players, but not being able to criticize or see obvious faults in ones team, and just act as if all is good, is just being ignorant and doesn't make you a better fan.

Emotions are probably the most usual cause for the criticism against the team, and like I said, emotions when something isn't right, reacting to it, is not negative, but the opposite. Stop taking bites at the forum as a whole, and focus on the individuals instead, because frankly, I get upset when you claim that I, and others here are not real fans, and that the team that we love deserves better fans.
 

hellsangel1

New member
Madrid were doing to Barca what Barca does to opponents, except the RM wingers actually cross because they have height in their frontline. Di Maria going one on one against Alves and with Marcelo making over-lapping runs. Martino was out-coached there by Ancelotti who clearly used that flank to attack. It's not Alves fault, he was outnumbered most of the time and had very little support from Neymar, contrast that with the support the likes of Ronaldo and mostly Bale were giving to their full-backs. Dimaria and Marcelo down one wing would be tough to handle for anybody. People solely blaming Alves have no idea what they're talking about.
 

Gohan

Super Saiyan
Madrid were doing to Barca what Barca does to opponents, except the RM wingers actually cross because they have height in their frontline. Di Maria going one on one against Alves and with Marcelo making over-lapping runs. Martino was out-coached there by Ancelotti who clearly used that flank to attack. It's not Alves fault, he was outnumbered most of the time and had very little support from Neymar, contrast that with the support the likes of Ronaldo and mostly Bale were giving to their full-backs. Dimaria and Marcelo down one wing would be tough to handle for anybody. People solely blaming Alves have no idea what they're talking about.

Good post.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
Let me preface my post by saying that Alves did not have a good game. He was slow and lethargic on defense, and did not have the quickness he has shown of late.

That being said though, a lot of what happened to him was out of his control. He was totally outnumbered and overwhelmed down his flank, and received very little help from Xavi and from Neymar.

Alves' gameplan was clear, he was supposed to stick to Ronaldo, and reduced the danger he would pose from the right wing. For the most part, he succeeded. Ronaldo had a very poor game. However, Ancelotti played a risky, but ultimately smart hand by playing di Maria behind him in midfield. That allowed di Maria to exploit the space left by Alves' focus on Ronaldo, and since Alves was not generally getting help from Neymar and Xavi in cover, he was left to defending both Ronaldo and di Maria, with the result of di Maria having all kinds of freedom to wreak havoc.

In hindsight, playing Neymar on the right was not the best decision. His inefficient offensive performance notwithstanding, he was also not a good counter to Madrid playing di Maria and Ronaldo on the same wing. You cannot fault Martino for playing that line-up, after all, it performed very well vs City. But then again, City does not have Ronaldo and di Maria.

If when these teams meet again Madrid plays with the same lineup, and they most definitely should, Martino will almost certainly seek to trump this advantage and play either Pedro or Alexis down the right to give some support to Alves.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Let me preface my post by saying that Alves did not have a good game. He was slow and lethargic on defense, and did not have the quickness he has shown of late.

That being said though, a lot of what happened to him was out of his control. He was totally outnumbered and overwhelmed down his flank, and received very little help from Xavi and from Neymar.

Alves' gameplan was clear, he was supposed to stick to Ronaldo, and reduced the danger he would pose from the right wing. For the most part, he succeeded. Ronaldo had a very poor game. However, Ancelotti played a risky, but ultimately smart hand by playing di Maria behind him in midfield. That allowed di Maria to exploit the space left by Alves' focus on Ronaldo, and since Alves was not generally getting help from Neymar and Xavi in cover, he was left to defending both Ronaldo and di Maria, with the result of di Maria having all kinds of freedom to wreak havoc.

In hindsight, playing Neymar on the right was not the best decision. His inefficient offensive performance notwithstanding, he was also not a good counter to Madrid playing di Maria and Ronaldo on the same wing. You cannot fault Martino for playing that line-up, after all, it performed very well vs City. But then again, City does not have Ronaldo and di Maria.

If when these teams meet again Madrid plays with the same lineup, and they most definitely should, Martino will almost certainly seek to trump this advantage and play either Pedro or Alexis down the right to give some support to Alves.

Well said. Excellent post.
 

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