Danilo Luiz da Silva

[KingMessi]

I still don't get the difference between 2 and 3 years from the club's perspective. Is the 3rd year's salary the only issue stopping them from offering him a 3-year contract? If Alves is not performing, we can offload/sell him before his contract is up, right?

The thing is, we simply can't afford to let Alves go now without being able to sign any good RBs right now.

If Alves refuses to leave because no other club will match his wages, then no we can't. We can just refuse to register him for competitions, but who wants to start something like that.

 

[Bertus]

If Alves refuses to leave because no other club will match his wages, then no we can't. We can just refuse to register him for competitions, but who wants to start something like that.

Alves will find a club. He's still ultra popular in the football world, more than what many people here imagine.

Might be PSG or another, or even could set up in MLS for even more money than he's asking right now.

Seriously, if Barca board tries to scare him with that, his agent will just have one big laugh.

 

[Gasgas]

Sorry, that's just butthurt talks you have here.

It's like saying PSG buying DL was moronic. Sure paying 50M might have been (and even so, not sure, he's one of the MAIN reason PSG is still present in ALL competitions so far. He played a gigantic part in it. But I guess it will hurt so many people to even admit it. Chelsea's fans can eat it after all they said last summer. So much that they might get fat drinking their own tears), but it helped. PSG had so many injured players that it was in the end one of the smartest decision PSG ever had (and yeah, I am one who was against it and just insulted Nasser and Blanc thousand times here about it, but I know when to admit it when I'm wrong).

Same for Marquinhos, "oh boy, PSG bought DL, so it was moronic to not sell Marquinhos 50M euros, since having 3 great CBs is apperntly too much for many people here". How many times I read it here that PSG didn't need to keep those 3 CBs. Only morons have such stupid talks.

Come on guys. Anyone, and I say ANYONE who's not lost in fanboys talks dreams of having 2 great players (at least) for each slots on the pitch. It's ALL good for so many reasons:

- In case of injury.
- Because each player knows that he has to work harder and harder to stay the number one for his slot.

Marquinhos wouldn't have grown so much if he was not in competition with DL and TS, he said it himself. It pushed him to work hard like a madman to reach the level he has now.

Sirigu is the complete opposite. He doens't feel threatened so he didn't work hard enough. He even was lazy enough to gain weight and all.

So yeah, made up butthurt comments all you want, but no, Danilo is a great buy for RM even if they already have Carvajal.

 

[Barcaman]

Alves will find a club. He's still ultra popular in the football world, more than what many people here imagine.

Might be PSG or another, or even could set up in MLS for even more money than he's asking right now.

Seriously, if Barca board tries to scare him with that, his agent will just have one big laugh.

Noone wanted to sign him last summer when he was available. He is (was?) a great player, popular if you will but he also has huge contract demands.

 

[Bertus]

Noone wanted to sign him last summer when he was available. He is (was?) a great player, popular if you will but he also has huge contract demands.

What I said is that he still has options with Qatar and MLS if he still wants a big check that no big clubs want to pay.

He's not worried. He won everything with Barca. The rest now is just a bonus for a legend like him.

Barca board has no pressure on him right now.

 

[Leo_Messi]

Sorry, that's just butthurt talks you have here.

It's like saying PSG buying DL was moronic. Sure paying 50M might have been (and even so, not sure, he's one of the MAIN reason PSG is still present in ALL competitions so far. He played a gigantic part in it. But I guess it will hurt so many people to even admit it. Chelsea's fans can eat it after all they said last summer. So much that they might get fat drinking their own tears), but it helped. PSG had so many injured players that it was in the end one of the smartest decision PSG ever had (and yeah, I am one who was against it and just insulted Nasser and Blanc thousand times here about it, but I know when to admit it when I'm wrong).

Same for Marquinhos, "oh boy, PSG bought DL, so it was moronic to not sell Marquinhos 50M euros, since having 3 great CBs is apperntly too much for many people here". How many times I read it here that PSG didn't need to keep those 3 CBs. Only morons have such stupid talks.

Come on guys. Anyone, and I say ANYONE who's not lost in fanboys talks dreams of having 2 great players (at least) for each slots on the pitch. It's ALL good for so many reasons:

- In case of injury.
- Because each player knows that he has to work harder and harder to stay the number one for his slot.

Marquinhos wouldn't have grown so much if he was not in competition with DL and TS, he said it himself. It pushed him to work hard like a madman to reach the level he has now.

Sirigu is the complete opposite. He doens't feel threatened so he didn't work hard enough. He even was lazy enough to gain weight and all.

So yeah, made up butthurt comments all you want, but no, Danilo is a great buy for RM even if they already have Carvajal.

Not at all. As I wrote then Carvajal is the better player, younger (albeit not by much) and a canterano. Buying Danilo was/is by no means a necessity at all. It's similar to buying Coentrão for 30 million euros when you already have Marcelo. Sure your squad depth is exceptional this way and you will always have a competent replacement in case of injuries, suspensions, lack of form etc. but that's it.

Paying this much for David Luiz was/is indeed moronic in my eyes.

You cannot use 2 examples that suit your agenda while there are plenty more that shows that buying two world class players for the same position is not necessarily always going according to the plan. Far from it.

 

[Bertus]

Not at all. As I wrote then Carvajal is the better player, younger (albeit not by much) and a canterano. Buying Danilo was/is by no means a necessity at all. It's similar to buying Coentrão for 30 million euros when you already have Marcelo. Sure your squad depth is exceptional this way and you will always have a competent replacement in case of injuries, suspensions, lack of form etc. but that's it.

Buying this much for David Luiz was/is indeed moronic in my eyes.

You cannot use 2 examples that suit your agenda while there are plenty more that shows that buying two world class players for the same position is not always going as planned.

Having 2 great players will still be better than having only one.

If Alba suffered from a grave injury the other night, you wouldn't be so quick to say that having a second very good player just behind him would have been a terrible idea even if it cost 30M to Barca.

So I hightly disagree with you. I will always prefer a combination of 2 great players battling for a slot than:

- Just 1 player for the job
- One good and one average if not a crook like Douglas.

 

[Leo_Messi]

Having 2 great players will still be better than having only one.

If Alba suffered from a grave injury the other night, you wouldn't be so quick to say that having a second very good player just behind him would have been a terrible idea even if it costed 30M to Barca.

So I hightly disagree with you. I will always prefer a combination of 2 great players battling for a slot than:

- Just 1 player for the job
- One good and one average if not a crook like Douglas.

Who says that Danilo was/is the only option? RM did very well with Carvajal and Arbeloa as the replacement on the right back last year. Two very distinct players with different characteristics and 2 different age groups. A great balance in other words. Carvajal and Danilo on the other hand are both almost identical in terms of playing style, age, potential, level etc. A player of such caliber always expects to play.
They want to replace Arbeloa which is obvious. Fair enough but then you don't have to buy Danilo to do that.

How many crucial games did Arbeloa play last season for instance? Did he not perform decently the few times that he was called into action? RM could have bought so many other players instead of buying a potential top dog when they already got 1.

Also you cannot compare buying Luiz or Marquinhos with buying Danilo. Before those 2 PSG only had 1 world class defender and that was Thiago. Now they got 3 for 4 positions. Hardly overkill by any means. 1 of them (Thiago) is almost 31 years old too while Marquinhos is still 20 years old and the future.

Adriano is a competent replacement. So is Mathieu in a worst case scenario (third option). If FCB had another player on Alba's position with a similar level, similar age group etc. I would consider that a waste. Then better have a decent player such as Adriano that almost always performs when called into action and who rarely if ever complains and who is earning much less etc.

Also there is a very good reason why top clubs do not have 23 star players of equal strength in their squads. Even those that can afford it.

But keep telling yourself that it is "butthurt" and ask yourself why Coentrao has stagnated and wants out.

 

[serghei]

Having 2 great players will still be better than having only one.

If Alba suffered from a grave injury the other night, you wouldn't be so quick to say that having a second very good player just behind him would have been a terrible idea even if it cost 30M to Barca.

So I hightly disagree with you. I will always prefer a combination of 2 great players battling for a slot than:

- Just 1 player for the job
- One good and one average if not a crook like Douglas.

Absolutely. You have to have two reliable players for each position if you call yourself a world class team. At the moment, we might have the best first 11 in the world, but if two-three players get injured or suspended, we're in big trouble. Our overall squad is weak because some of the players brought from Barca B and some of the players we bought aren't good enough to be trusted at top top level. Most of those need to go.

Also agree with Leo_Messi, in that it's better to have two great players for one position, but it's a problem when both want to play constantly.

 

[Bertus]

Absolutely. You have to have two reliable players for each position if you call yourself a world class team. At the moment, we might have the best first 11 in the world, but if two-three players get injured or suspended, we're in big trouble. Our overall squad is weak because some of the players brought from Barca B and some of the players we bought aren't good enough to be trusted at top top level. Most of those need to go.

People get cocky here because Barca so far was lucky enough to not suffer from big injuries.

So many think that one very good player for each slot is enough.

Cocky, really really cocky and suicidal too in the long run.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Agree with Bertus that we should strive for having 2 world class (or at least good players) on each position. Our ultra-thin squad is a disaster waiting to happen. If we are not as lucky as we have been this season in terms of injuries, what do we do when somebody is out injured for a long time? Crying? Praying?

 

[KingMessi]

People get cocky here because Barca so far was lucky enough to not suffer from big injuries.

So many think that one very good player for each slot is enough.

Cocky, really really cocky and suicidal too in the long run.

It's not just luck, it's Lucho's rotation game in the first half of the season as well. Not very many here think that one good player per position is enough. It's just that we can't do jack about our squad deficiencies until Jan 2016.

 

[Bertus]

Who says that Danilo was/is the only option? RM did very well with Carvajal and Arbeloa as the replacement on the right back last year. Two very distinct players with different characteristics and 2 different age groups. A great balance in other words. Carvajal and Danilo on the other hand are both almost identical in terms of playing style, age, potential, level etc. A player of such caliber always expects to play.
They want to replace Arbeloa which is obvious. Fair enough but then you don't have to buy Danilo to do that.

Why not. He was the best of the lot.

Any RM fan is happy right now I guess and they have any right to be.

How many crucial games did Arbeloa play last season for instance? Did he not perform decently the few times that he was called into action? RM could have bought so many other players instead of buying a potential top dog when they already got 1.

Maybe Carvajal would have been even better this season if he felt threatened. Arbeloa is not a threat.

Also with better quality on their bench, maybe RM would have been better.

I never considered Arbeloa good enough. Danilo is way better till proven wrong (And if I am proven wrong next season, don't worry, I'll be first to admit it.)

Also you cannot compare buying Luiz or Marquinhos with buying Danilo. Before those 2 PSG only had 1 world class defender and that was Thiago. Now they got 3 for 4 positions. Hardly overkill by any means. 1 of them (Thiago) is almost 31 years old too while Marquinhos is still 20 years old and the future.

You must have missed the tons of retarded discussions we had here then.

Even I said so many bad things about DL. Yet I was wrong. He's one of the main reasons PSG might save their season because so many other players were not good enough (including TS for the first 6 months of the season)

Adriano is a competent replacement.

He's not imo.

Also there is a very good reason why top clubs do not have 23 star players of equal strength in their squads. Even those that can afford it.

The reason is that great players usually don't want to come to be benched at first, that's all.

Danilo is ok with that. Good for RM, bad for us.

There's nothing wrong with what RM did in Danilo's case.

 

[KingMessi]

I will add that having 2+ "world-class" players for every position is a disaster waiting to happen if the players aren't managed correctly. World class players do not like to sit on the bench.

 

[Luftstalag14]

It's not just luck, it's Lucho's rotation game in the first half of the season as well. Not very many here think that one good player per position is enough. It's just that we can't do jack about our squad deficiencies until Jan 2016.

True, but we could do some industrious and smart planning and trying to strike some agreements and pre-deals with players before potential targets get scooped up by everyone else.

What the hell is that Braida guy doing these days anyway?