Denis Suarez
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God Serena
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Deulofeu was man of the match in our first game and played well in our second, but let's bench him for Denis because he flopped at Sevilla and Everton.
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
JamDav1982
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Messi was MOTM in first game and Roberto second. Duelofeu was nowhere near one of the best players in the second. Messi looked better when Denis and Paco came on if anything and linked up with them more.
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God Serena
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Deu had an assist and put in the cross for the first goal. Without him we wouldn't have even gotten the full 3 points. And I didn't say he was the best against Alaves, just that he played well. Either way he's certainly done enough that he's not worth scrapping because of failures with past teams.
JamDav1982
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I know what he did I watched it and he looked pretty much same as always and he will gets assists from time to time but no way was he MOTM. There is a vote on here for it and he came third.
Cant say without him wouldnt get three points. No one knows and Barca dont score there and are still heavy favourites to win. Likely that do still win.
Dont think he played well v Alaves. He was ok and team looked better with Denis on I thought.
BBZ8800
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Deulofeu created more in 90 minutes in terms of end product than Denis the Ghost in 12 Months.
He is the only midifielder amongst our load of dead wood that I wouldn't write off solely because he hasn't had chances to prove himself. He hasn't been as shit as gomes but gomes has started like as many games as messi but he hasn't been given a chance.
Bartra, Denis, Paco and similar guys didn't get too many chances to prove themselves.
There IS a strong reason why they aren't given chances though.
I don't expect too many chances for Denis this season either.
Again, for a reason.
Denis just doesn't have some killer instinct and some courage/actual skills to actually create some end product.
He just plays (as said before) some moves which look nice visually when you look at him, but that is more or less it.
Visually nice player.
In terms of actual impact on field and end product=absolute zero.
Deulofeu is Messi compared to him.
JamDav1982
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Interesting that it is all about 'end product' when suits. Yet for Neymar that has had more end product than any wide player at Barca bar Messi in recent times that was just ignored.
Deulofeu is a far more frustrating far less productive inferior version of Neymar. Denis is a better player.
Deulofeu is a far more frustrating far less productive inferior version of Neymar. Denis is a better player.
Neymessi
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Denis does posess a lot of skills. And with our absolutely mediocre midfield, there is much good reason to give denis a chance to prove himself.
clemente
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What you mean mediocre midfield? He IS the midfield, he had Busquets and Rakitic next to him and they are not letting him to prove himself?
BBZ8800
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Deulofeu can at least create something.
With Denis, I have no idea what this guy is supposed to offer.
Goals? No?
Assists? No
Dribbles? No
Being either a midfield or wing playmaker? No
In 12 Months at Barca, his impact can be summed in 2 lines:
1. Messi likes him for some reason (even though I don't see what this has to do with anything)
2. he plays visually nice and when you watch him, you get a slight "wow" feeling (a nice first touch, a nice movements, some classy passes)
In terms of any impact and end product, this is his career:
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(I know that he scored 1 goal or whatever, but you get the point).
When Roberto plays: we can at least say: we have more muscles, more energy, more stamina, we seem to be more balanced.
He is bringing some energy and passion.
When Iniesta plays, we can say: he can't run but he can still dictate play.
When Rakitic plays, we can say: he is slow, but we do have some workrate and some defensive balance.
On the other hand, when Denis plays, probably none out of 20 Millions (or whatever number) of Barca's fans can actually say WHAT are his strong points and what exactly is he bringing to a team.
Some could say: he isn't as horrible fit as Gomes. Or he is younger and faster than some guys. That is more or less it.
About some actual impact on field, dictating a play, creating chances, having successful dribbles or a lot of passes.
Absolutely nothing.
A jack of all trades, master of none.
Except that he is not even good in everything.
He had 1 good match in 12 Months (was it Sevilla away?).
If you want to test someone and give minutes to some younger or different guy, then rather give all minutes in midfield to someone like Alena than to Denis. Alena at least have potential in a few areas (skills, courage, vision, he can offer end product).
About Denis as a winger, he doesn't possess any Barca's level of required skills to actually create some danger, assist, score or make any damage to opponents.
He is the most vanilla (average, without apparent strengths) midfielder in our shirt since who knows when.
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5ergio_Busquets
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Problem with Denis is he lacks confidence and courage, he doesn't seem to me like he is trying hard to be a starter and looks content with his situation.
Jack off all trades master of none. That's a perfect definition for Roberto not Denis.
What he has to offer? Fluidize the game, and that is precisely what he has been doing every time he came in. A player isn't supposed to offer assits, goals or dribbles to be considerd good. Denis is a player who can enhance our collective game. A needed criteria in Barça.
What he has to offer? Fluidize the game, and that is precisely what he has been doing every time he came in. A player isn't supposed to offer assits, goals or dribbles to be considerd good. Denis is a player who can enhance our collective game. A needed criteria in Barça.
God Serena
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He's the most similar player to Iniesta except he's basically nothing like him at all and doesn't even play the same position.
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