Ousmane Dembélé
Banned
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Wow...
Looks like he lost the locker room.
Wow...
Looks like he lost the locker room.
xXKonan
Senior Member
I'm getting Lucho-Anoeta disaster vibes from this.
Remember all those rumors of Lucho having a bust up with Messi and how the squad simply were frustrated with Lucho and even one of the articles claimed that one of the players saying "Lucho was the worst coach I ever had?"
Difference is after that match we went on a tear in the second half of the season winning the treble. But here I get the feeling it's going to get ugly behind the scenes which could possibly mean the end of Valverde at the end of the season.
Remember all those rumors of Lucho having a bust up with Messi and how the squad simply were frustrated with Lucho and even one of the articles claimed that one of the players saying "Lucho was the worst coach I ever had?"
Difference is after that match we went on a tear in the second half of the season winning the treble. But here I get the feeling it's going to get ugly behind the scenes which could possibly mean the end of Valverde at the end of the season.
George_Costanza
Active member
tacticvarium
New member
Where are all the apologists who claimed Valverde is doing the best job and Barça is destined to win the treble this season.
Should fuck off from this forum already.
I didn't even try to argue with those people because pragmatic approach has been always suicidal at Barça from my experience as a culé.
Never, ever hype the results when performance itself is not close to the result.
Creating good performance must be always the first priority at Barça then, the results will naturally follow.
Should fuck off from this forum already.
I didn't even try to argue with those people because pragmatic approach has been always suicidal at Barça from my experience as a culé.
Never, ever hype the results when performance itself is not close to the result.
Creating good performance must be always the first priority at Barça then, the results will naturally follow.
Icarium
Lifestealer
I don't know about you guys but I am exhausted watching this team play. This maybe the most non Barca team I have seen in a decade. There is no flair there is no magic. Signing Valverde is the worst decision by the board. Tata comes close but at least he left with dignity. Valverde will probably stay for one more season. If we still play this shit football with dembele and Coutinho integrated to the squad plus whoever we sign next season I just can't watch anymore.
putogusiluz8
The Pale One
Honestly we were all apologetic because of the low expectations coming into the season combined with the fact that we were perfoming well in all the important games. But for the last month or two we expected that little bit extra from Ernesto, for the team to kick in another gear when needed and he simply showed he has no balls for a team like this. His conservative approach was acceptable for a bit, but we expected to see another facet to the style he presented and it never appeared.
Nowadays in Football no single approach will work, you must have several aces under your sleeves and the biggest dissapointment of all was seeing this team throughout 90 mins stick to his one dimensional approach.
Nowadays in Football no single approach will work, you must have several aces under your sleeves and the biggest dissapointment of all was seeing this team throughout 90 mins stick to his one dimensional approach.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
I hope he resigns. I think he will have to. There is nothing likeable about this guy football or personality wise.
Gaudi
Senior Member
I agree 100%
Busquets: "The results of the last two years away from home have been very bad in Europe; we have to change things if we want to win the Champions League."
Maybe the team is realizing this as well judging by Busis statement.
My biggest concern is one I've been typing here for a while - even if we sack Valverde nothing will change, because problem lies with our style and philosophy rather than tactics. We call this style Barca DNA and sacred but maybe is costing us more and more.
Miracle team from many generations, once in a lifetime squad masked that, and our style dominated but maybe it now becoming a problem. That is bigger concern then just sacking a coach.
At the begining I was against Valverde, I thought we need tier A coach and not the coach that celebrates draws away from home, coach who's biggest job is this one. I then started to prize him from time to time thinking he is bringing pragmatism more. Same with Lucho, I was against it but in that treble season I thought he changed things, we started playing faster, more direct...but it seems the team just clicked and had a good run, afterwards it all went downhill.
Valverde said last night: we couldn't push our style on to the match - that is a problem for me.
What style does Bayern has? Real? You can't put your finger on one thing! They can score from set pieces, from counters, crosses, team play...remember last year final, Juve played good half, but RM midfield switched from 40% possession to 60%...they can be dangerous from both scenarios.
We have ONE - slow possession game or death! We are not able to have a great game by soaking up pressure and countering with faster direct play. I can't see our team being able to have 40% possession and creating chances then switching up and so.
This is good for league matches because you are able to win most matches but we are having more and more troubles in CL. Same thing aplies for Pep and his teams, he is coming from same school and mentality and he is coaching the same thing. Both teams have a certain style, if you would blur the faces of players and numbers most people would be able to recognise Barca playing by simply watching the play - that is nice but also becoming a problem now.
This is way I was and still am for a coach like Simeone, I trully don't care, even don't want, another "Barca DNA" coach. I think we need a change, but not only in tactical department.
I know it's easy to believe that now but I don't think our problems would disappear if we had Dembele over Roberto yesterday.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
You cannot blame "Barca style" when the last time we played it was in 2012 with Pep Guardiola. I won't count 2013 due to various issues and Tito's health situation.
We actually play differently now. This is more Simeone-like than we've ever played and it fucking sucks.
You cannot play counter-attacking football with this team. Not with Iniesta, Suarez and Rakitic being a part of the Starting lineup. Way too slow.
We actually play differently now. This is more Simeone-like than we've ever played and it fucking sucks.
You cannot play counter-attacking football with this team. Not with Iniesta, Suarez and Rakitic being a part of the Starting lineup. Way too slow.
henias
New member
Lol anyone can win the league with Messi and Madrid with a bad form at the start. U think EV can win the league next season with his shitty tactics? We are better off without him. Shud have sacked Barto right frm the start and start everything frm scratch. These guys are destroying everything we built.
Nvr had a half decent coach. Valverde was supposedly picked because he had "Barca-blood" but his entire playstyle screams otherwise. Might as well look for a coach with our style and not care so much about their past history.
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Barcilliant
Senior Member
Basically we have no style of play at the moment. We don't attack well, we don't defend well. We. Are just mediocre in all departments.
Gaudi
Senior Member
I think we still try to play the same just worse, but it is still slow possession football.
Last sentence I agree but that is the problem that worries me more then coach change...ok, Iniesta is old now, but we are moulding this kind of players and trying to mould those we buy like Dembele who played completely different football in Dortmund.
tacticvarium
New member
Cruyffian football is and will always be the ultimate solution for Barça.
This club's identity is different from the other top clubs since it's built on Cruyffian philosophy so, you should not use other clubs as an example to judge how the club should be managed.
There is surely a room to be flexible, depending on the club's situation or squad quality but you should be always aware that the foundation is Cruyff.
The biggest problem with the current board is that they are against Cruyff's legacy and Rosell + Bartemeu got rid of most of Cruyff-related people within the club.
Fans won't be able to see true rebuilding as long as Bartomeu and co are managing the club.
This club's identity is different from the other top clubs since it's built on Cruyffian philosophy so, you should not use other clubs as an example to judge how the club should be managed.
There is surely a room to be flexible, depending on the club's situation or squad quality but you should be always aware that the foundation is Cruyff.
The biggest problem with the current board is that they are against Cruyff's legacy and Rosell + Bartemeu got rid of most of Cruyff-related people within the club.
Fans won't be able to see true rebuilding as long as Bartomeu and co are managing the club.
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