Ernesto Valverde - V1

Kul_z

Senior Member
subbing Dembele for Denis. Fucking chump.

I gave up when i saw that and started to watch qsg liverpool. I mean seriously, he wanted to close the game in 70 minute against psv at 2:0. Like we are mid range european club, not like a serious contender for ucl. Depressing stuff
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
3, 5, 10 years from now the Valverde reign will be seen as two years in waste with regression in our game and nothing noteworthy from a positive standpoint.

Guaranteed.

#Valverdeout
 

Sorin

Well-known member
I can comfortably say that, in these 2 years with Valverde at the helm, we played the worst football since the early 2000'. It's the reason why we said pass to Mourinho in 2008 ffs. Don't really know how he still has support from one part of the fanbase. Are they masochists? Perhaps they've confused us with Atletico Madrid or Helenio Herrera's Inter or some middle of the park Italian team from the 90' in which case they are not really fans of what Barcelona is about.

How the hell did we come to accepting this? Since when is winning the only thing we care about?
 

MTL_Barca

Well-known member
How the hell did we come to accepting this? Since when is winning the only thing we care about?

Yeah since when :bartomeu:

Since Pep left it just got worse every year. We want a coach that has "Barca DNA" and there is always talk about fitting our "style" when it comes to new players, there is always talk about la masia etc but the truth is they don't care. "Barca style" is just part of the image these days but its about winning titles and most importantly making money. They would all 100% take a Mourinho style Copa title over a trophyless season with la masia players and good looking football. We buy our coaches all these mediocre subs just so they don't have to use the youth, we let them play mediocre football as long as they win stuff. The only time we suddenly care about our principles is when they talk about a return of Thiago but signing Neyney back would be ok because he's not from la masia and his shirts sell good :lol:

Valverdes qualification for his job is that he played here for a short time 30 years ago because that gives you "Barca DNA" what by default turns you into a fitting coach apparently.

They at least should go full BBZ and just admit it instead of pretending to care, but i guess thats bad publicity. After all people still voted for Barto so he doesn't have a reason to change.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Well, we didnt actually bitch and moan about Lope all the freaking time though, despite doing significantly worse than you guys.
Like, we didnt give him the blame for absolutely everything thats going wrong, nor did we give him the blame for things non-related to football, stuff like giving him the blame for someone having depression(yes, some of you actually blamed Valverde for Iniestas depression, i wish i was joking, but that is what this world has come to now).

Morten now I'm tired of your constant bitching and moaning about fans here and how you take one idiot and paint everyone with the same brush.

You're complaining about everyone else when all you do is moan and bitch about Rosenborg all the time despite you guys winning every season. Look yourself in the mirror and stop being so annoying.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
 

Devils

Senior Member
I can comfortably say that, in these 2 years with Valverde at the helm, we played the worst football since the early 2000'. It's the reason why we said pass to Mourinho in 2008 ffs. Don't really know how he still has support from one part of the fanbase. Are they masochists? Perhaps they've confused us with Atletico Madrid or Helenio Herrera's Inter or some middle of the park Italian team from the 90' in which case they are not really fans of what Barcelona is about.

How the hell did we come to accepting this? Since when is winning the only thing we care about?

What is more questionable is his support from the media.

In two years I don't recall once that EV was blamed for anything directly by MD/Sport/RAC/SER etc...The media is much more willing to single out players and put the blame on them i.e. Dembele than blame EV for anything.

Complete opposite of other managers on EV's level i.e. Tata who was crucified by the Catalan media.
 

God Serena

New member
What is more questionable is his support from the media.

In two years I don't recall once that EV was blamed for anything directly by MD/Sport/RAC/SER etc...The media is much more willing to single out players and put the blame on them i.e. Dembele than blame EV for anything.

Complete opposite of other managers on EV's level i.e. Tata who was crucified by the Catalan media.

What's funny is... Tata was a better manager than Valverde. The man got crucified for beating Rayo 4-0 with less possession but Rayo played us off the park under Valverde and he barely squeezed out the win in the dying moment and everything is just fine.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
It's shocking seeing the likes of Gerard Romero, celebrate and laugh if Dembele has a horrible game but never say a damn word about the coach of this team.

Said can be said of the rest of the Catalan Journalists. The only criticism I've seen of Valverde recently is them complaining that he doesn't use the B team. Which yeah that's a start but that's where it stops for them.

I mean it's great seeing them speak out about Valverde's lack of trust in youth players but everything else these guys are willing to give Valverde a free pass on.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Morten now I'm tired of your constant bitching and moaning about fans here and how you take one idiot and paint everyone with the same brush.

You're complaining about everyone else when all you do is moan and bitch about Rosenborg all the time despite you guys winning every season. Look yourself in the mirror and stop being so annoying.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I was going to reply to that comment on the same direction but this is so aptly put I don't need to really.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
What is more questionable is his support from the media.

In two years I don't recall once that EV was blamed for anything directly by MD/Sport/RAC/SER etc...The media is much more willing to single out players and put the blame on them i.e. Dembele than blame EV for anything.

Complete opposite of other managers on EV's level i.e. Tata who was crucified by the Catalan media.

He probably is very well connected within these news outlets. Wouldn't be surprised if he is the one feeding stories to these gutter journalists about the likes of Dembele, Malcom. If you notice there is also no criticism about his favorites Rakitic, Pique etc. when these are some of the players that stunk up the place the most this season.

Tata Martino was an outsider.
 

serghei

Senior Member
What is more questionable is his support from the media.

In two years I don't recall once that EV was blamed for anything directly by MD/Sport/RAC/SER etc...The media is much more willing to single out players and put the blame on them i.e. Dembele than blame EV for anything.

Complete opposite of other managers on EV's level i.e. Tata who was crucified by the Catalan media.

EV is low key. Doesn't try to act too cocky, does't put extra pressure on him by trying to be a hero. His pressers for example are a collection of platitudes, cliches and safe words, as to not get himself into trouble. Don't know if it is planned, or he's just so simple minded and just lacks the charisma that is very important in establishing a leader image, both inside the locker-room and outside, for the fans and media. And the results alone aren't that bad to be honest as to draw extra heat on him. He's always managed to get some good results just when it seemed he's going to be in trouble. Problem is that Barcelona is supposed to represent more than just ok-ish results with crap to decent football at best.

We were supposed to enter a rebuilding phase where we build a new team with a fresh blood infusion based on some new exciting transfers and also some very good La Masia prospects. What we have here is a conservative manager who tries to patch things on the fly, postponing every idea of rebuilding we've had before signing him. The man just doesn't care about the future of this club. What he wants is some titles on his resume. He just manages this team trying to get those results in his limited, conservative way.

Our situation is the same as United's with Mourinho. Instead of going forward, both teams have managers who try to patch things up, hoping they can get some results. The difference in results, is merely the difference in squad quality.
 
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