Ernesto Valverde - V1

[utility73]

Oh my! Have we already sunk so low that people actually wish for Wenger ?

 

[KingLeo10]

keep wenger away please. we are still a club with aspirations to win CL.

 

[FC B]

Oh my! Have we already sunk so low that people actually wish for Wenger ?

Wenger is better than Valverde, clearly, there is no doubt about it.

 

[shadows]

Wenger is better than Valverde, clearly, there is no doubt about it.

Sorry but that would be replacing mediocrity with another mediocrity... I mean if he were to be like managing our Barca B or the entire youth system, i am all for it..but for winning and motivating our current squad or another set of more stars, pass... What i would personally prefer is someone who can make those tactical changes (during a game as well) and deliver a champions league preferably...

 

[utility73]

Wenger is better than Valverde, clearly, there is no doubt about it.

My cute and stupid dog is better than Valverde.

 

[Zidane82]

I was thinking with this next game being Ernesto's 400 league game as manager ... it would be a nice neat and tidy time to make it his last

I can dream

keep wenger away please. we are still a club with aspirations to win CL.

There's only Wenger and Zidane available

 

[Givenchy]

theres really nothing wrong with Wenger. his situation at Arsenal got stale and their owners are reluctant to spend the money needed to challenge for a PL title. he has a clear philosophy, gives youngsters a chance and has respect across the footballing world.

Zidane, although it'd never happen, no fucking way do i want to see a Madridista legend managing Barca, Ernie is bad enough you'd think hes a Madrid plant

 

[serghei]

Not saying Wenger would work, but him managing Barcelona would be a lot more exciting than Valverde. He at least has a vision, likes developing players and is a big name. He's worked with a lot of big players at Arsenal. World Cup winners and such.

 

[khaled_a_d]

He at least has a vision, likes developing players and is a big name. He's worked with a lot of big players at Arsenal. World Cup winners and such.

Arsenal fans didn't really see this vision in past half decade. There is a reason there fans right now in love with Unai, whom Barca fans were likely would have hated just as EV if he was here.
Wenger was once a great manager, one of the best, but he has lost his touch a decade ago, and totally lost any vision for few years now and at the age of 70 this is unlikely to change.

 

[George_Costanza]

Arsenal fans didn't really see this vision in past half decade. There is a reason there fans right now in love with Unai, whom Barca fans were likely would have hated just as EV if he was here.
Wenger was once a great manager, one of the best, but he has lost his touch a decade ago, and totally lost any vision for few years now and at the age of 70 this is unlikely to change.

Wenger revolutionized and transformed Arsenal into a top European club, something EV and his peers will never ever match. Wenger's mistake was overstaying his time at Arsenal. He should have left long ago to find another challenge to spark interest and ignite passion. Another big reason for his failure was the club not spending on to recruit WC players, Stan Kroenke club owner takes the money and invested in NFL, NBA, and Hockey leagues. Actually, Arsenal became a selling club under his leadership.

Wenger isn't my first choice to lead Barcelona but he is head and shoulder above coaches like Valverde, Lucho, and Tata.

 

[messi2140]

It says a lot that Valverde's biggest fans and defenders are Real Madrid supporters. He is a legend

Former France international Christian Karembeu believes that Real Madrid are always favourite to win the Champions League but would like to see Barcelona crowned kings of Europe this season.The ex-Madrid player and European champion in 1998 is a fan of Ernesto Valverde's work at the Camp Nou, and would be happy to see it rewarded."I would like it [Barcelona winning the Champions League] for Valverde because he is working well," Karembeu told Sportium.

I think you are onto sometinhg

 

[serghei]

Wenger revolutionized and transformed Arsenal into a top European club, something EV and his peers will never ever match. Wenger's mistake was overstaying his time at Arsenal. He should have left long ago to find another challenge to spark interest and ignite passion. Another big reason for his failure was the club not spending on to recruit WC players, Stan Kroenke club owner takes the money and invested in NFL, NBA, and Hockey leagues. Actually, Arsenal became a selling club under his leadership.

Wenger isn't my first choice to lead Barcelona but he is head and shoulder above coaches like Valverde, Lucho, and Tata.

Well said. He wouldn't be my first choice either due to age mostly, but no doubt he would be better than Valverde, in terms of playing style, squad management and youth development, basically the 3 important areas Valverde is terrible at.

[MENTION=11668]khaled_a_d[/MENTION], Emery is a better manager than Valverde too. Once we get our asses handed to us in CL again maybe you'll see it too. Valverde is the definition of average for a club the size and ambitions of Barcelona.

 

[henias]

I would give Quique Setien a shot to be honest, he doesnt have the most experienced CV, but to me he come across as a passionate and profound man. Reminds me alot of Sarri, who also rose through the ranks from the lower leagues. He's also a fresh face with that could potentially help the club through its transitional period. His philosophy fits like a glove here and he truly believed in helping players improve and play better football. I think that itself is a clear sense of direction in where we should be in the coming years, instead of coaches who doesnt have a clear set of ideas and vision.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Wenger revolutionized and transformed Arsenal into a top European club, something EV and his peers will never ever match. Wenger's mistake was overstaying his time at Arsenal. He should have left long ago to find another challenge to spark interest and ignite passion. Another big reason for his failure was the club not spending on to recruit WC players, Stan Kroenke club owner takes the money and invested in NFL, NBA, and Hockey leagues. Actually, Arsenal became a selling club under his leadership.

Wenger isn't my first choice to lead Barcelona but he is head and shoulder above coaches like Valverde, Lucho, and Tata.

As I said, he was once great but not anymore, he will be 70 next year and has been years since he has done anything meaningful with Arsenal.
He overstayed for sure, but he didn't evolve either as a coach.
He also spent a lot in recent years IIRC, but never managed to make Arsenal a truly competitive team in past decade, never managed to keep his stars in the team either. Owners aren't the only one to blame here, a lot had to do with his philosophy and trials, once talked about how he doesn't believe in signing old player who are 26 or 27 but later on changed his mind a bit tbf.
And he had an absolute freedom in his signings, and he made some really bad signings (Mustafi for example was never fit for that team) and he won't get that freedom here -which might be good thing- but would he accept that?

I mean Rijkaard has transformed us into European big club and half of this forum -including you- think he was bad coach.
This is a guy who thought not reaching CL wan't bad thing b/c now fans can appreciate the times they used to reach CL .
He should retire or coach a NT, he has already tarnished his legacy enough and don't need to be another LVG

Once we get our asses handed to us in CL again maybe you'll see it too. Valverde is the definition of average for a club the size and ambitions of Barcelona.

So once he will do an Emery?
I mean, while we are at it, why not think about LVG? may be bring Rijkaard back? they have at least proven they can win here, what about trying to convince SAF to come out of retirement?

 

[serghei]

So once he will do an Emery?
I mean, while we are at it, why not think about LVG? may be bring Rijkaard back? they have at least proven they can win here, what about trying to convince SAF to come out of retirement?

Don't understand why are you defending him. Do you seriously think he's done a great job?
Emery lost a 4-0 lead, but at least he lost it to a team containing 3 of the best strikers in the world, not to a team like Roma. Not to mention that Emery's performances with Sevilla are far better than anything Valverde did in his entire career.

Let me tell you, losing a 4-1 lead vs Roma is a lot worse than losing a 4-0 lead vs a team with Messi, Neymar, and Suarez as their 3 attackers. Messi alone is probably worth as much as Roma's entire first 11.

You said you're absolutely certain Alena will get at least 1200 minutes this season btw. Odds are he'd be lucky to get half that at best. But that would be just another expectation Valverde fails to meet.

I'm pretty sure he'll get 90 great minutes vs Cultura Leonesa soon though...