Ernesto Valverde

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
He went down in history as the coach that let Barca's playing stlyle and football values go down the drain

I wish this is true, sadly it isn't.
We are still delusional about football value we have and that fake Barca DNA/Crujfista bs (which in reality is actually a Pepista, not even Crujifista) and we are living in the past.
 

soul24rage

Senior Member

Aye, I'll be coping hard :koeman:

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Birdy

Senior Member
I wish this is true, sadly it isn't.
We are still delusional about football value we have and that fake Barca DNA/Crujfista bs (which in reality is actually a Pepista, not even Crujifista) and we are living in the past.

I don't think I am living in the past.
If you see all my posts here, you will see how much hate I am receiving from self-proclaimed Cruyffista/Pepista ideologists

Football values and principles is something more general than the tactics and the formation you play.
Going for a draw, for instance, or not to lose, instead of a win is a violation of a certain value that the club traditionally upholds
 

bismp

Well-known member
Lol Dembele and Coutinho floped because of EV :lol: State of this poster.

Coutinho in 2017: top 5-10 winger in the world
Dembele in 2017: top 5-10 talent in the world,comparable to Mbappe

Coutinho and Dembele 2 years after the guidance of the ultimate mentor and tactician: Massive flops

Real Madrid toyed with Liverpool in 2018 final and won 3 UCL in a row now is a weak team :lol:

They did not give a fuck for La Liga in 2018 and were in an all time low in 2019.

Real Madrid 2018: 76 points
Real Madrid 2019: 69 points
Barcelona 2020: 82 points
Barcelona 2021: 79 points

So,in other words,the worst Barcelona in 2 decades performed better in La Liga,than the mighty Real Madrid,during Ernie’s tenure.

In fact,2020 and 2021 Barca would have won La Liga both years :lol: The competition was THAT bad.

Try better next time buddy.



And what about all the other arguments?Oh I forgot, logic and Valverde stand don’t go hand in hand.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Coutinho in 2017: top 5-10 winger in the world
Dembele in 2017: top 5-10 talent in the world,comparable to Mbappe

Coutinho and Dembele 2 years after the guidance of the ultimate mentor and tactician: Massive flops



They did not give a fuck for La Liga in 2018 and were in an all time low in 2019.

Real Madrid 2018: 76 points
Real Madrid 2019: 69 points
Barcelona 2020: 82 points
Barcelona 2021: 79 points

So,in other words,the worst Barcelona in 2 decades performed better in La Liga,than the mighty Real Madrid,during Ernie?s tenure.

In fact,2020 and 2021 Barca would have won La Liga both years :lol: The competition was THAT bad.

Try better next time buddy.



And what about all the other arguments?Oh I forgot, logic and Valverde stand don?t go hand in hand.

Two years later and those two lengendary players are still the same. Make you wonder :lol:

And if you go like that, Bojan under Rijkaard, top talent in the world, next Messi. Under Pep, ruined his career and never recover again :lol:

Madrid gave up Liga because Barca beat them 3-0 in Bernabeu. 2018/19 lost both games vs Barca, including 5-1 loss.

Now you talk about point won, funny. 12/13 team collected 100 points, so better than any of Pep 2008/09 and 2010/11 or Lucho 14/15 side. Your logic. 96/97 team are better than any of Cruyff's dream team. More points, more goals. Your logic.

Barca from 19-21 vs RM and AM in Liga: lose 4 times, draw 2 and win only 1 (under EV btw).

In fact, put Barca last season in 17-19, Madrid teams would have a lot of fun.

Try better thing buddy.

And what about all other arguments? Oh i forgot, logic and your hatred don't go hand in hand.
 
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Joan

Well-known member
Let's break it down

Man management

EV and Klopp tier 1

Pep and Tuchel tier 3 known to fall out with everyone

Personality

Ev tier 1 humble likeable man into photography and philosophy.

Klopp tier 2 generally pretty good but a bit weird and crazy with some saltiness

Tier 3 Tuchel falls out with everyone lol

Tier 4 Pep unlikeable and fake person

Tactics Tier 1
Pep when his plan A works it works
Klopp very good tactician managed to overturn 3-0 deficit

Tier 2 EV, Excellent overall but could have done more to stem the bleeding had to be more pragmatic rather than go for goals which he admits he regrets.

Tier 3 Tuchel
Not impressed besdies a lucky run with Chelsea and PSG

Overall
EV 1
Klopp 2nd
Pep 3rd
Tuchel 4th

Tru

Haters gotta cope
 

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