Messigician
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The streets won’t forget the abuse “ retardo” got even though you would like to @KingLeo10 @Barcaman
Ernesto Valverde
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KingLeo10
Senior Member
Aye. Valverde knew magic was over and tried his best. Also won a lot. But ... There was negative and defeatist air about him..
Beta vibes.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Won only two titles in Messis last 5 seasons.
Winner.
Limited to what he could do to change the obvious flaws in squad.
Winner.
Limited to what he could do to change the obvious flaws in squad.
Messigician
Senior Member
His Bilbao side are also playing some excellent football this season and are a very well coached side unbeaten in 9 games.
JohnN
Senior Member
Checkout Valverders masterclass coaching that lead to the 2018 title.
You might spot a couple of pretty decent players on the frontline, obviously capitalizing on the amazing tactics and interplay designed buy the maestro. Clearly comparable with Xavi's squad.
Check out the 2019 too:
Incidentally those 2 players are still there on the attack scoring wonder goals left and right.
@KingLeo10
You might spot a couple of pretty decent players on the frontline, obviously capitalizing on the amazing tactics and interplay designed buy the maestro. Clearly comparable with Xavi's squad.
Check out the 2019 too:
Incidentally those 2 players are still there on the attack scoring wonder goals left and right.
@KingLeo10
Fati_Future_BallonDor
Well-known member
I wonder why Barca didnt win 19/20 ll after EV left them on the first spot if he didnt contribute anything
Messi is the god of football but it doesn't mean EV didn't do anything. He built the team around Messi and made sure Messi can play freely.Checkout Valverders masterclass coaching that lead to the 2018 title.
You might spot a couple of pretty decent players on the frontline, obviously capitalizing on the amazing tactics and interplay designed buy the maestro. Clearly comparable with Xavi's squad.
Check out the 2019 too:
Incidentally those 2 players are still there on the attack scoring wonder goals left and right.
@KingLeo10
Or now Scaloni with Argentina.
EV is a very good coach.
JohnN
Senior Member
14-15: 94 points, champions. runner up 92 points.
15-16: 91 points, champions. runner up 90 points.
16-17: 90 points, runner up. champions 93 points.
17-18: 93 points, champions. runner up 79 points.
18-19: 87 points, champions. runner up 76 points.
19-20: 82 points, runner up. champions 87 points.
what you will notice is that our points are consistent no matter the manager since 2014
but in two Valverde seasons the opposition is none existent. our points drop after 17-18, consistently with the player quality dropping and age increasing. in 2019-2020, Real wins the league with 87 points, that if had managed the previous season would also had won.
15-16: 91 points, champions. runner up 90 points.
16-17: 90 points, runner up. champions 93 points.
17-18: 93 points, champions. runner up 79 points.
18-19: 87 points, champions. runner up 76 points.
19-20: 82 points, runner up. champions 87 points.
what you will notice is that our points are consistent no matter the manager since 2014
but in two Valverde seasons the opposition is none existent. our points drop after 17-18, consistently with the player quality dropping and age increasing. in 2019-2020, Real wins the league with 87 points, that if had managed the previous season would also had won.
High certainty of that, the last Clasico was crucial for us winning the league, and no way would we have won that game if Valverde, El Clasico-master, was still there.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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The reason why Real had less points during EV time than in previous seasons was because EV let them no chance, they gave up after realizing that they just waste energy to achieve the impossible thing, thats why they focused on cl
JohnN
Senior Member
I see a like from you @Messigician in the last post which totally answers you question but can you address the points made?
doesn't it seen that we always got about the same points mostly to our unreal attackers?
all ev had to do is manage the egos and concentrate on defense. he did well except for cl were defense ( his domain) failed badly.
doesn't it seen that we always got about the same points mostly to our unreal attackers?
all ev had to do is manage the egos and concentrate on defense. he did well except for cl were defense ( his domain) failed badly.
JohnN
Senior Member
A less than 80 point season by Madrid in two consecutive runs is certainly not on EV. they managed above 90 most seasons. that is a monumental drop in league form. in a league that was deteriorating too.
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