Fabricio Coloccini

mateopol

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I always wonderd why people said Newcastle had some of the most delusional fans in football, now I know

Manchester United fans are even more delusional. redcafe.net is the most delusional football forum in the world. It's even worse than Arsenal Mania and Bluemoon. One poster once wrote that Fletcher is better player than David Silva <facepalm.gif needed>

As for Coloccini, he's good player and it's mystery for me that he isn't in current Argentina squad for WC qualifiers.
 

barcetia

Mikrofonkåt
now this post is not about colloccini or about newcastle but it may be about where you are mistaking yourself


there's a big difference in being a very good defender in a side that gets pounded every week, and in a side that pounds teams every week because when you're getting pounded, you have at least 7 other players defending with you. smaller teams like Newcastle, West Brom, Mallorca, Osasuna always play in defence against bigger teams leaving the attacking midfielders and forwards doing the offensive duties.

in the big horses, like Arsenal Barcelona, Man utd, Chelsea, there are fewer players ready to defend when it's time to defend because most of the attacks they have against them are counterattacks. therefore, we can draw the conclusion that it's much harder to be a defender at a top side then the reverse. who were the CBs from lesser sides that played for England in the WC and were shit? Dawson and some other clown, I think Warnock, prove my point.

Don't get the fuss over Jagielka either.
 

Chainsaw

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there is nothing deluded about it. I've watched him for 90 minutes every week for the past 2 years. Have you?

He's been nothing short of fantastic and Newcastle fans would be the first to tell you that he is our best players and that we would fall apart without him and that he should be Number 1 center back for Argentina.

I'll tell you what's deluded, Newcastle being 3rd in the league, unbeaten, with the best defence in the premier league and 1 point behind Champions Manchester United after 11 games.

Di Natale is Udinese top goal scorer year in year out and always among the top goal scorers in Serie A. That doesn't make him 'World Class'. It's totally fine that you enjoy Coloccini in your team. But you're exaggerating about him being World Class.
 

Hatem Ben Arfa

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Hatem Ben Arfa

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Man Of the match against the mighty Everton, that just proves he's world class

where did I say that?

He won man of the match in game where the winner was an absolute thunder strike from someone other than him. that is why I posted it. It is the Coloccini thread non?

Just an example of how consistently well he has played this season. and quite a good description of him as a player, mr super cool calm and collected when everyone else is in a panic.

You don't think he's world class. that is fine. it is your opinion. I'm not going to insult you for it until you change your mind.
 
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woobie

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Or it's a matter of how one defines 'world class'. Speaking for myself, I tend to take a really narrow definition of who I personally label 'world class'. For me, in general, it's the guys I'd pick if I had to select a world squad of the best players (so 25 or so guys). I'm pickier with defenders because I grew up watching two of the all time greats and so every defender for me is at one point going to be compared with Baresi and Maldini. tbh, very few guys currently playing measure up.
 

zanela

Senior Member
I'm eager to see how the most consistent defender takes on the most profilic striker of the season thus far, in a fortnight. The Colo-Džeko duel is the one to watch out, for me. The longer in a game my man goes without scoring, the more his overall game suffers, but if he nicks an early goal, then its bye bye Colo. :)

But ofc this is subject to edin starting the game, as he has couple of crucial intls coming up, the playoffs against Portugal. While Colo will be well rested. I'm thinking Mancini 'll go for Balo/Aguero for this one. But i hope he starts Edin, cause i really want to watch this specific contest.
 

Hatem Ben Arfa

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Or it's a matter of how one defines 'world class'. Speaking for myself, I tend to take a really narrow definition of who I personally label 'world class'. For me, in general, it's the guys I'd pick if I had to select a world squad of the best players (so 25 or so guys). I'm pickier with defenders because I grew up watching two of the all time greats and so every defender for me is at one point going to be compared with Baresi and Maldini. tbh, very few guys currently playing measure up.

that too.

what do you think of Newcastle's Davide Santon? was it Mourinho who compared him to Maldini?
 
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woobie

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Santon started out very, very brightly....3 years ago. And fizzled to almost nothing. I know he's had his share of injuries but the potential seen in him has not in any way materialized (as of the end of last season). If anything, he's regressed.
 

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