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[Luftstalag14]

The point is he got them back after a few years. The move didn't "condemn the future of RM long-term" but it worked out.

There is so much doom and gloom from English media about Barca's strategy of selling assets for X years

Honestly they have a point that this will hurt us in the long run, but they just didn't or pretended to not understand why they had to do it. And the worst part is, they made it sound like as if Barca breached the FFP or circumvented all the rules in the world. No we didn't, we are paying a hefty price.

Nobody wants to willingly sell off their rights and assets, duh. The English media don't get it, but apparently they understand why clubs should be sold.

 

[Birdy]

Honestly they have a point that this will hurt us in the long run, but they just didn't or pretended to not understand why they had to do it. And the worst part is, they made it sound like as if Barca breached the FFP or circumvented all the rules in the world. No we didn't, we are paying a hefty price.

Nobody wants to willingly sell off their rights and assets, duh. The English media don't get it, but apparently they understand why clubs should be sold.

Plus, hurting us in the long run is not certain.
It didn't hurt RM, it might not hurt us.

Laporta explained it fairly simple in his CBS interview: It's a financial (vicious or virtuous) circle -> you get loans or money from future income, you invest in the team, you attact fans, you win, and eventually you get more income to pay off the money you borrowed.
It can fail if you fail to win and attract more income, but it can also succeed...

 

[El Gato]

The point is he got them back after a few years. The move didn't "condemn the future of RM long-term" but it worked out.

There is so much doom and gloom from English media about Barca's strategy of selling assets for X years

What ?worked out?? He didn?t sell them for a revenue stream

 

[Luftstalag14]

Plus, hurting us in the long run is not certain.
It didn't hurt RM, it might not hurt us.

Laporta explained it fairly simple in his CBS interview: It's a financial (vicious or virtuous) circle -> you get loans or money from future income, you invest in the team, you attact fans, you win, and eventually you get more income to pay off the money you borrowed.
It can fail if you fail to win and attract more income, but it can also succeed...

Sure, but just from the monetary standpoint alone of losing 42m + a season (and if the La Liga TV pie becomes bigger, of course we will gain more from the 75% we have, but we also lose more from the 25% that we don't have), putting ourselves in a handicapped position compared to Madrid and many EPL clubs, that will surely hurt us in the long run.

 

[serghei]

Sure, but just from the monetary standpoint alone of losing 42m + a season (and if the La Liga TV pie becomes bigger, of course we will gain more from the 75% we have, but we also lose more from the 25% that we don't have), putting ourselves in a handicapped position compared to Madrid and many EPL clubs, that will surely hurt us in the long run.

True. But this loss can be minimized by proper management. The club wasted tons more money than those projected losses through the sheer incompetence of the previous board in just the last 2-3 years.

My main worry with these levers is that, while the current board and staff are probably smart enough to operate with it, the next board could handle things way worse.

We really need Laporta to stay in office for 10+ years or so, at least two mandates. Like Florentino is doing with Madrid. You do not hand the keys to a club so big and difficult to run to pure crooks and amateurs.

The main reason why Madrid is financially better is because Florentino Perez has been there to run the club since 2008. That's 14 years and counting. We should do the same with Laporta. Hell, Florentino is so big and important at Madrid, he even rode that tapes scandal like it was nothing. At Barcelona if some president is caught speaking that way about former legends, he'd be gone probably. The club is too feeble, sentimental, and political, and when you are that, it's very likely for some crook to exploit it and get in power with terrible long term consequences.

 

[Luftstalag14]

True. But this loss can be minimized by proper management. The club wasted tons more money than those projected losses through the sheer incompetence of the previous board in just the last 2-3 years.

My main worry with these levers is that, while the current board and staff are probably smart enough to operate with it, the next board could handle things way worse.

We really need Laporta to stay in office for 10+ years or so, at least two mandates. Like Florentino is doing with Madrid. You do not hand the keys to a club so big and difficult to run to pure crooks and amateurs.

The main reason why Madrid is financially better is because Florentino Perez has been there to run the club since 2008. That's 14 years and counting. We should do the same with Laporta. Hell, Florentino is so big and important at Madrid, he even rode that tapes scandal like it was nothing. At Barcelona if some president is caught speaking that way about former legends, he'd be gone probably. The club is too feeble, sentimental, and political, and when you are that, it's very likely for some crook to exploit it and get in power with terrible long term consequences.

You have a lot of faith in Laporta, I don't. Laporta has his own merits but he is no Florentino Perez. The latter is a very successful businessman who knows how to run a business effectively, Laporta is a politician, a showman essentially. If he gets the right people, or shall we say, if he happens to hire the right people and he likes them, great; if not, then we are just relying on the whims of one man. Whether I am right or not, time will tell, I certainly hope I am proven wrong and the club flourishes under him.

Of course, some future presidents could be worse than Laporta, but I think I'd rather go with someone with a very sound business background (that said, Rosell and Bartomeu are businessmen too, they are certainly not immune to fuckups and shady stuff).

Madrid is really lucky to have Florentino. Maybe after he is gone, they will hit a snag.

 

[Zidane82]

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For Bernardo Silva if FDJ stays ??

 

[Andresito]

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For Bernardo Silva if FDJ stays ??

No, to register the new players in case La Liga say no.

 

[Porque]

So next season without the levers, how much are we set to lose?

 

[El Gato]

Depends on where you finish, the magnitude of commercial revenue spike and all I imagine

Likes of Busquets leaving should help but not much

 

[Andresito]

So next season without the levers, how much are we set to lose?

Over 9000

 

[serghei]

So next season without the levers, how much are we set to lose?

Depends on many factors probably. Attendance, UEFA money, how much wages are we going to clear from the overpaid leachers, attracting better sponsors now that the team is seen as more of a success, and so on.

 

[Birdy]

So next season without the levers, how much are we set to lose?

The most important thing the levers achieved is having a + net, and getting into 1:1 rule

That means when the next financial year closes, we just need to be on a + net, and we will not have penalties.
No spending spree in the summer, as 1:1 rule means balance. But the big overhaul happened already this summer.
Busi's and Pique's wages out will be enough for 2-3 moves in the market

 

[serghei]

Redcafe is pure gold. Like one of the posters there says he hopes Barca won't have to sell their club to a billonaire owner to survive because that would be a tragedy.

Like how the fuck can you be this ignorant and hypocritical? Your dear Manchester United is exactly that, a privately owned club in the hands of a rich American family of billionaires.

 

[xXKonan]

Redcafe is pure gold. Like one of the posters there says he hopes Barca won't have to sell their club to a billonaire owner to survive because that would be a tragedy.

Like how the fuck can you be this ignorant and hypocritical? Your dear Manchester United is exactly that, a privately owned club in the hands of a rich American family of billionaires.

United fans hated us for years, but the FDJ saga really broke them and they somehow became experts in Club Finance.

They let themselves get gassed up by bullshit leaks from United's higher brass and Knobs like Gary Neville. It's like some Alex Jones Conspiracy level wank fest on there.