Frenkie de Jong

[Porque]

Yep. Xavi also relies on Alves as a hybrid DMC in the defensive build up, which we suffer when he's not playing.

It's probably why we have the other two midfielders propped higher up the pitch.

Doesn't help when it's Araujo or Dest at RB though, as Alba doesn't have the awareness and pausa of Alves to help the buildup lime a midfielder.

And after writing all that, you realize that a fit Sergi Roberto will feature alot under Xavi.

 

[serghei]

Yep. Xavi also relies on Alves as a hybrid DMC in the defensive build up, which we suffer when he's not playing.

It's probably why we have the other two midfielders propped higher up the pitch.

Doesn't help when it's Araujo or Dest at RB though, as Alba doesn't have the awareness and pausa of Alves to help the buildup lime a midfielder.

And after writing all that, you realize that a fit Sergi Roberto will feature alot under Xavi.

That idea with Alves is like scratching behind your left ear with the right hand.

 

[Porque]

That idea with Alves is like scratching behind your left ear with the right hand.

The idea is good when the whole team is fluid. It similar to Koemans 343 on that mini run where you have a bank of 5 in offence and a bank of 5 in defence. Just this time you have both fullbacks become left and right defensive midfielders.

Long term you would need prime Alves or Kimmich (or Sergi Roberto at his peak for that matter, a fullback in their prime who thinks and plays like a midfielder basically, rather than a lateral running machine) on both sides- and that isn't easy.

The offensive widemen need to both be excellent individual creates as their will be moments (periods) of the game where they won't be supported by overlacks.

Basically it is a high level system which needs excellent lateral players at their peak, which we absolutely lack. Maybe it worked in Qatar where the technical, phsyical and financial level of Al-Sadd was above anything in Qatar (yet below most of the opposition in ACL where Xavi consistently failed), but it won't work here without 200/250 million which we don't have to sign the best DL,DR,AML,AMR around.

So basically we are seeing a limitation of Xavi in the disconnect between the way he wants to play and the players he has at his disposal. So much so that he wants to bring in a 39 year old Alves and renew a injury prone Roberto to try and reenact it.

God gawd, and with that I just gave an indirect ringing endorsement of the Crouching Basque Tiger Ernesto Valverde , who worked without the contraints of what he had. The guy didn't even need the team to run. They worked around running

 

[serghei]

EV got annointed with the tail end of Messi's prime. That masked a lot domestically.

 

[Messigician]

Smoke smoke smoke

Frenkie de Jong's girlfriend Mikky Kiemeney used to spend a lot of time with Bartina Koeman, Ronald Koeman's wife. Frenkie is liked inside the dressing room, but his relationship with Koeman was crucial for him.

? @sport

 

[vegitot]

The idea is good when the whole team is fluid. It similar to Koemans 343 on that mini run where you have a bank of 5 in offence and a bank of 5 in defence. Just this time you have both fullbacks become left and right defensive midfielders.

Long term you would need prime Alves or Kimmich (or Sergi Roberto at his peak for that matter, a fullback in their prime who thinks and plays like a midfielder basically, rather than a lateral running machine) on both sides- and that isn't easy.

The offensive widemen need to both be excellent individual creates as their will be moments (periods) of the game where they won't be supported by overlacks.

Basically it is a high level system which needs excellent lateral players at their peak, which we absolutely lack. Maybe it worked in Qatar where the technical, phsyical and financial level of Al-Sadd was above anything in Qatar (yet below most of the opposition in ACL where Xavi consistently failed), but it won't work here without 200/250 million which we don't have to sign the best DL,DR,AML,AMR around.

So basically we are seeing a limitation of Xavi in the disconnect between the way he wants to play and the players he has at his disposal. So much so that he wants to bring in a 39 year old Alves and renew a injury prone Roberto to try and reenact it.

God gawd, and with that I just gave an indirect ringing endorsement of the Crouching Basque Tiger Ernesto Valverde , who worked without the contraints of what he had. The guy didn't even need the team to run. They worked around running

Spot on.

Glad that EV gets more and more credits lately.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Smoke smoke smoke

Frenkie de Jong's girlfriend Mikky Kiemeney used to spend a lot of time with Bartina Koeman, Ronald Koeman's wife. Frenkie is liked inside the dressing room, but his relationship with Koeman was crucial for him.

? @sport

We know where his weak mentality is coming from then. Koeman. Guy gives up before games.

 

[fergus90]

Straight swap with Kimmich

 

[khaled_a_d]

Straight swap with Kimmich

Or Alphonso Davies

 

[Bobo32]

Or Alphonso Davies

My heart couldn't handle that, and neither could his.

 

[DonAK]

Bayern will probably offer Chupo-Moting instead

 

[khaled_a_d]

Bayern will probably offer Chupo-Moting instead

And Marc Roca

 

[Luftstalag14]

Alfonso Davis or Lucas Hernandes only. Kimmich hasn't been that great this season in the midfield, especially when Goreztka was not there, many Bayern fans are not happy with him. Very little creativity, mostly just a FK and corner-kicker. They miss Thiago.

Bayern can go take a hike.

 

[fergus90]

Alfonso Davis or Lucas Hernandes only. Kimmich hasn't been that great this season in the midfield, especially when Goreztka was not there, many Bayern fans are not happy with him. Very little creativity, mostly just a FK and corner-kicker. They miss Thiago.

Bayern can go take a hike.

Up until tonight he completed the most final third passes in the Cl and has 10 assists. He would be class for Barca

 

[Luftstalag14]

Up until tonight he completed the most final third passes in the Cl and has 10 assists. He would be class for Barca

Hmmm, I haven't got that feeling of him of the past this season, despite the stats.