Frenkie de Jong

jamrock

Senior Member
Valencia game was a cake walk before it even began as many predicted.

Fan boys trying to make out like Valencia was some kinda force and player X starting made the difference.

In reality he was the worse player in Midfield.

Had a good game though and continues to improve, which is needed for the club and team.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Valencia game was a cake walk before it even began as many predicted.

Fan boys trying to make out like Valencia was some kinda force and player X starting made the difference.

In reality he was the worse player in Midfield.

Had a good game though and continues to improve, which is needed for the club and team.

Haha aye just like all those other poor teams that were a 'cake walk'.

FDJ played well and Barca got first win in a while after winning 1 in 8.

He was better than Casado clearly and far far better than Gavi had been in previous 3 domestic games.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Barca away to Real Frenkie came on at 0-0 and huge reason they won 4-0.

He then didnt look fit enough and too timid then out.. no issue with that.

Reason was the change of system.

What about the other games he did not play and we smashed Bayern and Madrid?

Gavi has qualities you are refusing to acknowledge.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Reason was the change of system.

What about the other games he did not play and we smashed Bayern and Madrid?

Gavi has qualities you are refusing to acknowledge.

Haha aye there is always a reason.. FDJ came on and massively improved the middle of the park.

Gavi has qualities in hard work and aggresion. On the ball he lacks a lot and not great positionally still at this point.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
The Gavi V De Jong debate, much like the De jong being a rolls Royce player, Better than Pedri, better than Rodri, best Midfielder in the world.

And all that other nonsense has been settled.

The new debate is de jong vs casado, I got money on casado

Dutch needing Him to make progress at the euros, also settled 😂.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
The Gavi V De Jong debate, much like the De jong being a rolls Royce player, Better than Pedri, better than Rodri, best Midfielder in the world.

And all that other nonsense has been settled.

The new debate is de jong vs casado, I got money on casado.

Fake news on the 'better than Rodri claim' try again.

FDJ was better than Pedri... and always said very ltittle in it and could over take him soon enough.

Worst shout from likes of you was Gavi being 'best and most important player'.

Then again you claimed Cubarsi was too small and not ready, Yamal 'looks shite', Gavi is Barcas 'best player'... not long after the claim that Kessie was best mid at Barca for what did at Milan etc.,

'Barca will never let Gundo go'.

'Pedri has to be Barcas most advanced midfielder'.

'Gavi can play deep and Pedri ahead of him'.

Top stuff.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Gavi been terrible on the ball in the league and CL.

He is doing next to nothing to progress the ball or open game up and giving the ball away constantly.. one tackle and folk cheer though.
DeJongs mentality will always be his letdown. He is too soft, afraid of the ball and contact. Gavi at least has those figured out.

He is a nice guy.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
DeJongs mentality will always be his letdown. He is too soft, afraid of the ball and contact. Gavi at least has those figured out.

He is a nice guy.

Nah that is not true. This season he looks wary of ankle a lot but his stats for winning ball back were up there with best in team the last few seasons.

Gavi flying in to anything that moves results in lots of balls won and also dribbled past a lot and leaving pitch open.

It is why no coach so far has really trusted him for any real length of time in a 433 and why him and Pedri in 433 never really works for club or country to date.

Dejongs mentality on the ball and how to use it and understanding of game is levels above Gavi who looks limited and passes it safe and backwards far too often.
 
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Richard.H

Senior Member
I don't really understand why Jamdav has FDJ's pecker so far up his ass. Everyone with a working brain and two eyes can see Valencia was an easy opponent. He simply does very well with a lot of space. He's dogshit at tight spaces and just being a normal DM like Casado. Casado is a much better fit for our system.

FDJ would do really well at Man Utd as a regular CM due to his creativity and ability to keep the ball. He is not a fit, and will never be, at Barca. His work rate is shit, he's not a DM, and he's nowhere near as technically and creatively gifted as Pedri to occupy his spaces. Heck I don't even think he's more creative than Gavi but people can debate he is and I will be ok with that.

Is FDJ a great backup to Casado? Yes. Will FDJ accept being a backup? No. Should leave to Man Utd while they are still desperate and while they still might offer him a high salary.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Haha no.. Valencia were pressing high up and constanlty trying to pressure the midfield and close the space.

FDJ played better than Casado as did when came on v Getafe and Benfica.

Folk on here.... 'FDJ only does well when teams sit back and allow Barca the ball'.. next time.. 'FDJ only does well when team come out in open game'.

What teams 'dont give Barca space' if not when press high up? Who are these teams?

FDJ not being more creative than Gavi is about most moronic claim going. Gavi struggles to open up the game big time and stuggles to even more it forward all that much let alone create chances.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
The biggest moron in this forum is you for thinking he is the most important midfielder for Barca in the last 5 years. He has proven to be one of the least important players in the team. Pablo Torre has more potential as a Barca player currently than FDJ.
 

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