Gerard Deulofeu

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
It takes a little bit of practice to see the small details in football, I encourage you to keep trying. Maybe rewatch the game, and be open minded.

He did an excellent job, in my opinion. Wearing down defenders and being our biggest threat are good enough for me. :D

Lol what a load of garbage. Constantly failing with brain dead play is not excused by "he was trying". If that is your concept of positive, might as well get Di Maria in the team, because he excels at the "play like a donkey, but is trying" skillset.

Deulofeu is a physically skilled but stupid player. Has been, is ,and will be this way. He's a net negative most of the time.
 
Lol what a load of garbage. Constantly failing with brain dead play is not excused by "he was trying". If that is your concept of positive, might as well get Di Maria in the team, because he excels at the "play like a donkey, but is trying" skillset.

Deulofeu is a physically skilled but stupid player. Has been, is ,and will be this way. He's a net negative most of the time.

Hey! I wouldnt mind DiMaria as a sub. That would be amazing!
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
It takes a little bit of practice to see the small details in football, I encourage you to keep trying. Maybe rewatch the game, and be open minded.

He did an excellent job, in my opinion. Wearing down defenders and being our biggest threat are good enough for me. :D

Funny of you to be so patronizing, as it seems it is you who are missing plenty of "small" and big details or any actual recollection of events whatsoever. Do you actually watch the game or just see what you want to see? Blatantly ignoring the quantity and consistency of Deulofeu's turnovers and his lack of success at trying his 1 move. It's basic fucking math. High volume of attempts, low output of success. "small details". Guess I gotta do some elite mental gymnastics to rationalize shit players as good ones.

Wearing down defenders? LOL. I guess Di Maria had a great performance against Venezuela, wearing them down with those amazing crosses and dribbles. It's extraordinary how you try to spin things using the most flawed logic ever. Failing SEVERAL times is now a good thing and wearing down defenders?? Making things happen? I could go out there and get 50 turnovers and then say "but muh I wore them down and made things happen".
 
Funny of you to be so patronizing, as it seems it is you who are missing plenty of "small" and big details or any actual recollection of events whatsoever. Do you actually watch the game or just see what you want to see? Blatantly ignoring the quantity and consistency of Deulofeu's turnovers and his lack of success at trying his 1 move. It's basic fucking math. High volume of attempts, low output of success. ".

Im sorry, I forgot to do the math. So how many times did Deulofeu try? How many did he fail? Id love to see those numbers of yours!
 

Adversus

New member
Funny of you to be so patronizing, as it seems it is you who are missing plenty of "small" and big details or any actual recollection of events whatsoever. Do you actually watch the game or just see what you want to see? Blatantly ignoring the quantity and consistency of Deulofeu's turnovers and his lack of success at trying his 1 move. It's basic fucking math. High volume of attempts, low output of success. "small details". Guess I gotta do some elite mental gymnastics to rationalize shit players as good ones.

Wearing down defenders? LOL. I guess Di Maria had a great performance against Venezuela, wearing them down with those amazing crosses and dribbles. It's extraordinary how you try to spin things using the most flawed logic ever. Failing SEVERAL times is now a good thing and wearing down defenders?? Making things happen? I could go out there and get 50 turnovers and then say "but muh I wore them down and made things happen".

I agree with most of what you are saying however all players loose the ball. If they didn't there would be a shot every possession. Getafe did a good job today and were well organized plus Barca were tired. In a game like that sometimes you just need someone to keep trying even if it's just to create a bit of chaos and that's one thing Deulofeu does well and the first goal came from it. He also made some very nice runs creating space for others and while his passing is a little random he does choose the right decision, his decision making isn't his problem - his ability to execute it consistently is. On those times he gets it right he creates chances for others like today.

I like Denis Suarez however he's not a winger. He's a perfect backup for Iniesta and the manager is using them both right.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Im sorry, I forgot to do the math. So how many times did Deulofeu try? How many did he fail? Id love to see those numbers of yours!

Lol. I've known that Whoscored can be spotty in terms of recording everything that happens on the pitch, but of what they did record: Deulofeu had 1 successful dribble out of 6 attempts. I can remember at least 4 unsuccessful crosses explicitly. From what I recall he tried and failed more crosses than that and maybe dribbles too. That's a 16% recorded successful dribbling rate since you seem to be so incapable of calculating or estimating for yourself. Crossing stats aren't recorded by attempt on Whoscored AFAIK, but rather by successful actions.

You love making snide comments, for someone who has offered literally no argument other than "but muh he tried a bunch of shit and wore them down" :lol:. Not a single coach, pundit, player, or anyone would agree with the basic premise that attempting single actions repetitively to failure is a "great performance" and "wearing them down". It's also terrible play selection, as the plays he decides to make are not the right ones given the situation he's in and they are low probability actions overall that he tries endlessly. Your base understanding of what it means to be good at football seems to be wildly off the mark, and you sit here condescending and patronizing everyone who criticizes Deulofeu.

How about you present your own evidence or argument for once? How many times did Deulofeu produce successful attacking actions or meaningful sequences of play? How much evidence is there for this "great performance" you keep going on about? I'd love to see this proof of yours!
 
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Xaviniesta

Senior Member
When he came on he gave away too many fouls. He was also arguing with the ref a lot, I was worried he could have got a 2nd yellow
 

Adversus

New member
Lol. I've known that Whoscored can be spotty in terms of recording everything that happens on the pitch, but of what they did record: Deulofeu had 1 successful dribble out of 6 attempts. I can remember at least 4 unsuccessful crosses explicitly. From what I recall he tried and failed more crosses than that and maybe dribbles too. That's a 16% recorded successful dribbling rate since you seem to be so incapable of calculating or estimating for yourself. Crossing stats aren't recorded by attempt on Whoscored AFAIK, but rather by successful actions.

You love making snide comments, for someone who has offered literally no argument other than "but muh he tried a bunch of shit and wore them down" :lol:. Not a single coach, pundit, player, or anyone would agree with the basic premise that attempting single actions repetitively to failure is a "great performance" and "wearing them down". It's also terrible play selection, as the plays he decides to make are not the right ones given the situation he's in and they are low probability actions overall that he tries endlessly. Your base understanding of what it means to be good at football seems to be wildly off the mark, and you sit here condescending and patronizing everyone who criticizes Deulofeu.

How about you present your own evidence or argument for once? How many times did Deulofeu produce successful attacking actions or meaningful sequences of play? How much evidence is there for this "great performance" you keep going on about? I'd love to see this proof of yours!

One of those "failed" dribbles lead to the equalizing goal.

Although one of those fouls also lead to their goal too. lol

There's definitely evidence for both sides.
 

Nothanks

New member
pinning his their goal on his "foul" is dumb lmao

deulofeu did good tonight, so many bitter people here seem happier to see a player fail than succeed in barca.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
One of those "failed" dribbles lead to the equalizing goal.

Although one of those fouls also lead to their goal too. lol

There's definitely evidence for both sides.

Why does Deulofeu deserve any credit for that goal whatsoever? All he did was fail, again. It was Roberto's good pass that set the goal up, and Denis's amazing finish that sealed it. Both of those actions were actually great and led to the goal, Deulofeu deserves no credit just for being present in the sequence of events. It wasn't the "chaos" that actually made the goal, but two well executed and intelligent actions. Plays like that in the final third actually create danger, as they are forced to defend more diligently and there is less room for error against competent attacks.

Nor should he particularly be blamed for their goal, as it was a wonder goal.
 

Nothanks

New member
except denis suarez took a year and a month to show us anything and deulofeu since the beginning of the season (minus super copa) has been overall a good player for us.
 

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