Hans-Dieter Flick

[Barcaman]

Valverde did and does good job with Bilbao. Was probably just a lousy motivator and that's what lacked the most here (as Rakitic admitted).
Bilbao are self-motivated crazies so that's a different story.

 

[Messigician]

Valverde did and does good job with Bilbao. Was probably just a lousy motivator and that's what lacked the most here (as Rakitic admitted).
Bilbao are self-motivated crazies so that's a different story.

Hard disagree

Messi knows ball and he’s done nothing but praise Valverde and accepted full responsibility from the players for the UCL embarrassment

 

[RedxMAK]

Hard disagree

Messi knows ball and he’s done nothing but praise Valverde and accepted full responsibility from the players for the UCL embarrassment

Bro I’m curious, how when it’s Valverde you’re the first guy to defend him and blame it on the players. But when it’s Flick or Xavi, you automatically blame it on the manager. Don’t you think that’s a clear lack of consistency in your logic

 

[Birdy]

Bro I’m curious, how when it’s Valverde you’re the first guy to defend him and blame it on the players. But when it’s Flick or Xavi, you automatically blame it on the manager. Don’t you think that’s a clear lack of consistency in your logic

Club de Amigos ruled by MEssi and his buddies was a certain culture that distroyed and corrupted the team
Valverde was the facilitator of this culture.
The yes man they were looking for (they got one with Tata for only a season before) for years, but had to deal with Pep or Lucho, who would always impose their authority on the spoiled entitled primadonas