Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Birdy

Senior Member
Please man... we have the two best scorers in the league, and we're acting as if these players are the problem... doesn't make sense.

You have a thing for distorting reality on purpose, do you?

Raphina and Lewa have skyrocketed their numbers because of Flick's system, not the other way round

They should thank him for that
 

serghei

Senior Member
If we are going to look at where Flick could improve I would look at rotation. Lewandowski needs to be rested when can.

Wouldn’t trust this defense even if we opted a more defensive style.

Then he's cooked. I don't believe our offense can be a lot better than it's been so far, so if he doesn't find a way to defend better, his season is a bust and save for a CL miracle... he is in danger for next season. His success depends on fixing the defense.

Who's gonna be a lot better offensively? Lewa is top scorer and Raphinha is having the best season in his career.
 

Horatio

You're welcome
Then he's cooked. I don't believe our offense can be a lot better than it's been so far, so if he doesn't find a way to defend better, his season is a bust and save for a CL miracle... he is in danger for next season. His success depends on fixing the defense.

Who's gonna be a lot better offensively? Lewa is top scorer and Raphinha is having the best season in his career.

What is the xG and goals for last 10 games if I may ask?
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Flick's only REAL problems and points of criticism so far, should be 2:

1) Rotation. We need much more.
I get that he does not trust a good part of the bench.
And that is not only his fault, but the board's

2) Concentration/motivation in easy games.
Reason we did not get the points against Celta, Betis, Las Palmas to say the least.

2 might have to do with 1. If same players play all the time, they get worn down mentally first..
 
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serghei

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If you rotate and rest your key offensive players, a need for a more defensive setup becomes a must.

I've been telling you this for months or even years. Xavi didn't go cautious mode because he hates ultra offensive football, but because he had to do it for us to become champions.
 

Loki

Well-known member
You have a thing for distorting reality on purpose, do you?

Raphina and Lewa have skyrocketed their numbers because of Flick's system, not the other way round

They should thank him for that
So when they didn't score under Xavi, it was because of them being bad. When they score under Flick, it's because of the system. There is no way where they can win in this logic.
People like you aren't ashamed of the bullshit they spread just to push their opinion.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
If you rotate and rest your key offensive players, a need for a more defensive setup becomes a must.

Dude what the HECK are you talking about?
You are determined to die on a hill of a silly argument because you started it?

You think that we can win ANY game, especially vs the parked buses of LL fodder, with a 'more defensive' setup? :lol:


These games should be able to be won by subs. Ferran, Fermin, Ansu, Pablo Torre even, should be able to play decently at least against the Leganeses and the Las Palmases of this world, and provide the necessary to get the 3 points

IF they are not on the level to help the team in these games they should NOT be at Barca, simple as that
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
Flick biggest problem is throwing away a 10 points advantage to Atleti.

Winning 1 game in 7, one of if not the worse run in Barca history.

Losing 3 games in a row at home, worse in Barca history, thank God he didn't sully the Camp now with this bullshit.

Conceding the most goals in the title contenders.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
So when they didn't score under Xavi, it was because of them being bad. When they score under Flick, it's because of the system. There is no way where they can win in this logic.
People like you aren't ashamed of the bullshit they spread just to push their opinion.

When people defend a manager with 1 wn in 7 games, you know there is no hope left.
We are doomed.

All 7 were scrubs btw
 

draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude
5/10 season for now. Very big highs and same shitass lows.
Quality plays, entertaining football, drama. Quality stuff.

Keep in mind, we played most games away this half, and our stadium is shit interms of atmosphere.
Next half, when we start playing in Camp Nou, and most games will in home, it is a different ball game altogether.

I am positive, but lets see. The lack in depth in our Forward and Fullbacks, cant cost us big time like now. But if we regain form we should be unstoppable.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
If you rotate and rest your key offensive players, a need for a more defensive setup becomes a must.

I've been telling you this for months or even years. Xavi didn't go cautious mode because he hates ultra offensive football, but because he had to do it for us to become champions.
Anyone with a brain could see the last part.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
So when they didn't score under Xavi, it was because of them being bad. When they score under Flick, it's because of the system. There is no way where they can win in this logic.
People like you aren't ashamed of the bullshit they spread just to push their opinion.

Mate, are you confusing me with someone else in here?

When did I blame the players under Xavi?
I blamed the system that did not let them shine.
And the example of Raphina is telling: only me, Ajno and a couple of others, pointed out that Xavi is misusing him as a winger, and in another system he could be different

PS: Watch your mouth, because I don't remember saying any bad word to you so far in here
 

serghei

Senior Member
Khaled said a while ago he didn't like Xavi's ideas but he knew how to implement them. He likes Flick's ideas but the implementation is poor. I agree with this, but the feasibility of a plan is a key part of planning.

Flick embarked on a boat that etiher leads to great success or failure. He is a football romantic, and while he deserves credit for his ambitions, he will be judged on results.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
5/10 season for now. Very big highs and same shitass lows.
Quality plays, entertaining football, drama. Quality stuff.

Keep in mind, we played most games away this half, and our stadium is shit interms of atmosphere.
Next half, when we start playing in Camp Nou, and most games will in home, it is a different ball game altogether.

I am positive, but lets see. The lack in depth in our Forward and Fullbacks, cant cost us big time like now. But if we regain form we should be unstoppable.

Yea that's where I land too as a grade.

C or 5/10.

Passing, but barely.
 

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