Hans-Dieter Flick

[Birdy]

Anyone with a brain could see the last part.

Nice try to whitewash Xavi again.

No he did not become defensive on purpose.
He did not know how to overcome the rigidness of his formations, and it naturally become that the players were unable to attack properly.

The 1-0s only happened because of luck and STegen. Look at the data, it is all documented since 22-23

 

[jamrock]

Khaled said a while ago he didn't like Xavi's ideas but he knew how to implement them. He likes Flick's ideas but the implementation is poor. I agree with this, but the feasibility of a plan is a key part of planning.

The thing people forget is that when we actually saw Xavi true ideas, it was always attacking football.

But when you don't have the tools to do what you want to consistently and have won the league in 4 years, you gotta do what you gotta to win.

 

[draconifire]

Yea that's where I land too as a grade.

C or 5/10.

Passing, but barely.

Ya, Drama wise its 7/10 though.
Havent seen a team that batters Top teams, and loses hard to Relegation ones. LOL

 

[Birdy]

Khaled said a while ago he didn't like Xavi's ideas but he knew how to implement them. He likes Flick's ideas but the implementation is poor. I agree with this, but the feasibility of a plan is a key part of planning.

Flick embarked on a boat that etiher leads to great success or failure. He is a football romantic, and while he deserves credit for his ambitions, he will be judged on results.

You jump from one poor argument to another with no cohesion whatsoever, just to say something bad about Flick and good about Xavi

Totally wrong AGAIN:
Xavi knows theoretically everything about positional football he has been taught by Pep.
But he was unable to teach it properly, that's why he created rigid patterns of play that could not unlock a simple bus

On the contrary, Flick knows very well how to implement his football, and the sextuple is the proof itself.

 

[jamrock]

Nice try to whitewash Xavi again.

No he did not become defensive on purpose.
He did not know how to overcome the rigidness of his formations, and it naturally become that the players were unable to attack properly.

The 1-0s only happened because of luck and STegen. Look at the data, it is all documented since 22-23

Never been a single team that had won a league title with multiple games to spare, that did so by luck.

Time and again you show us that you are only interested in pushing your own narrative, facts be damned.

Always shoulda coulda and woulda's with you bro.

 

[Horatio]

The thing people forget is that when we actually saw Xavi true ideas, it was always attacking football.

But when you don't have the tools to do what you want to consistently and have won the league in 4 years, you gotta do what you gotta to win.

Who has ever attacked Xavi’s philosphy? Biggest strawman to date.

 

[Birdy]

The thing people forget is that when we actually saw Xavi true ideas, it was always attacking football.

But when you don't have the tools to do what you want to consistently and have won the league in 4 years, you gotta do what you gotta to win.

Xavi's true ideas were to buy RAphina Lewa and Kounde with the lever money and implement his football

and guess what?
The only thing he managed to implement was rigidity and static patterns of play

 

[jamrock]

Who has ever attacked Xavi’s philosphy? Biggest strawman to date.

No idea what your talking about, people are actually having a serious conversation here, see your way out please.

You're not built for this.

 

[Birdy]

Never been a single team that had won a league title with multiple games to spare, that did so by luck.

Time and again you show us that you are only interested in pushing your own narrative, facts be damned.

Always shoulda coulda and woulda's with you bro.

Sorry, the luck of the 1-0s of 22/23 is a FACT

has been admitted even by Xavi fans in here

IF you don't see it, you have the problem

 

[serghei]

It's tough to rate Flick, because we are very inconsistent. Losing to midtable and lower table teams in Spain, but after half a season we look like a top 2 contender in CL. His season will go to total shit if we don't fix the league issues and get eliminated in CL. Or it can flower nicely if we keep the CL form until the end and stop being naive in La Liga.

We need to let the man work, and see how he can tackle the negative issues of the team. He will have to be the changing factor, not some miracle transfers.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Ya, Drama wise its 7/10 though.
Havent seen a team that batters Top teams, and loses hard to Relegation ones. LOL

We beat one top team, MUNICH
if you count VARDRId who were struggling, one more but we beat them every season
Lost to top team in LA Liga atm

Cut it out

 

[Birdy]

It's tough to rate Flick, because we are very inconsistent. Losing to midtable and lower table teams in Spain, but after half a season we look like a top 2 contender in CL. His season will go to total shit if we don't fix the league issues and get eliminated in CL. Or it can flower nicely if we keep the CL form until the end and stop being naive in La Liga.

'naive'

Using the same word, without knowing its meaning just to push an agenda

 

[jamrock]

Sorry, the luck of the 1-0s of 22/23 is a FACT

has been admitted even by Xavi fans in here

IF you don't see it, you have the problem

Lol okay.

 

[serghei]

'naive'

Using the same word, without knowing its meaning just to push an agenda

Why are you so mad? I will continue to back Flick even if he has a bad season with some conditions. You expect me to not comment on the poor aspects of the team? Not gonna happen. That's what we do here.

You get emotional about this like a 10 year old. It's mid season and we all want the guy to deliver and become a top manager for us.

 

[Birdy]

Lol okay.

Yes,
Go back to the game threads in here and read to see people's reactions

Why are you so mad? I will continue to back Flick even if he has a bad season with some conditions. You expect to not comment on the poor aspects of the team? Not gonna happen. That's what we do here.

I am expecting to comment objectively and devise non-existent things just to blame Flick