Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Well-known member
The best way to describe his tenure so far is that we are super strong Spurs. We play great, attacking football generally, but we are full of self destruction ( Spursy ) and we only have one way of playing. ( High press, High line )

I found it remarkably naive when Flick said he didn't care about the way the opposition were going to play. That statement was so Ange Postecoglue like, that I'm surprised it didn't come out with a Australian accent.

He's done many good things so far, and the ride has been fun, but he desperately needs to improve his in game management, when to rest/rotate players and add a touch of pragmatism to his tactics if he wants to be a consistent trophy winning manager here.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
The best way to describe his tenure so far is that we are super strong Spurs. We play great, attacking football generally, but we are full of self destruction ( Spursy ) and we only have one way of playing. ( High press, High line )

I found it remarkably naive when Flick said he didn't care about the way the opposition were going to play. That statement was so Ange Postecoglue like, that I'm surprised it didn't come out with a Australian accent.

He's done many good things so far, and the ride has been fun, but he desperately needs to improve his in game management, when to rest/rotate players and add a touch of pragmatism to his tactics if he wants to be a consistent trophy winning manager here.

There is not a single piece of evidence during this bad run of form that points to this silly 'pragmatism' argument that is parroted day in day out from people here that simply want their cake and eat it too...

Did any team broke our high line? Did we concede 5 or 6 big chances in a game from through balls that we failed to render offside? So what is this kind of pragmatism that you are requesting?
Is it sitting back, parking bus to protect a lead?
Anyone asked this question here gets cornered and can't answer

Same with the 'only one way of playing'.
There is only 1, literally 1 way of playing with every great coach, be it Pep, Klopp, you name it.
The only thing that changes in each game are the slight formational adjustments (which Flick also makes, look at the last game vs Atleti) that do NOT affect the core of how a team plays: whether slowly building up, whether high line, whether counter-pressing, whether directly, etc.
 

Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Well-known member
There is not a single piece of evidence during this bad run of form that points to this silly 'pragmatism' argument that is parroted day in day out from people here that simply want their cake and eat it too...

Did any team broke our high line? Did we concede 5 or 6 big chances in a game from through balls that we failed to render offside? So what is this kind of pragmatism that you are requesting?
Is it sitting back, parking bus to protect a lead?
Anyone asked this question here gets cornered and can't answer

Same with the 'only one way of playing'.
There is only 1, literally 1 way of playing with every great coach, be it Pep, Klopp, you name it.
The only thing that changes in each game are the slight formational adjustments (which Flick also makes, look at the last game vs Atleti) that do NOT affect the core of how a team plays: whether slowly building up, whether high line, whether counter-pressing, whether directly, etc.

By one way of playing, I am referring to the fact that Flick plays the same way when he is chasing a game than when he is winning a game with 5 minutes to go. This has resulted in Barca being the highest conceder of late point costing goals amongst big clubs in Europe. That is what I'm talking about when it comes to pragmatism and is a damning piece of evidence.

Flick has shown he has one gear only, 6th. You can teach your side to see out games, without losing your identity, or 'parking the bus'. Pep and Klopp know how to do that, Flick hasn't shown it yet.

The similarities between him and Postecoglu's philosophy is startling and nothing like Klopp or Pep, who both know when their sides need to take the foot off the pedal.
 
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Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
Remember 10 years ago when we hit a bad patch under Lucho and he benched Messi, stirred the shit up, team got that fire under their ass and won the treble 6 months later?

Who is the man who will light the fire now? Flick is still smiling in press conferences and Catalan media still rides players dicks.

Kounde, Balde, Lewa play like shit never get benched. Unless it's some weird rotation pattern where he also plays Martin for couple of matches even though being shit. That idiot Ferran finally scores couple and gets benched for next 3 matches.

I see no pattern of merit in his selection. Probably counts too much on his physical coaches for selections but even then it's questionable as Raphinha clearly said we lost some games due to fatigue.

And then there's a glaring hole in the deck which is Lewandowski who plays way too much for his age and the reason our defensive tactics have to be build to accommodate his age.
Gavi is right to be pissed as is any player who runs himself to the ground.

At this point it seems someone really needs to go public and stir the shit up.
The problem here is the bench. Who're you playing benching Kounde, Lewa and Balde? You have the exciting options of Gerard "Maldini" Martin, Hector "Cafu" Fort and Ferran "The Shark" Torres
 

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