Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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jamrock

Senior Member
Sure.
The strength of the two teams is NOT comparable nevertheless despite same number of points.
And that's if you look only LL games
Strength?, when did we start talking about which team can lift more.

You have to be doing a lot of mental gymnastics to make up for the fact that half way through the seaso

the team sits at exactly the same position as it did last season, which was the worse season we had.

under if we go by your words is the worst manager in recent Barca history.

So what does that say about Flick? Lol.

The great thing about league football, is you can never hide, you get exactly what you deserve, and we are where we are Right now, let's hope he can turn it around, because losing this league would be hella embarrassing.
 

BJJ

Well-known member
What I find amazing is the fact that our team loaded with superstars found the desire to push and press hard almost every game. I'm talking 08 to 11 period.
And these pussies can't even maintain that for half a season. They either get injured or can't get up for a match with Las Palmas or fucking Leganes.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
What I find amazing is the fact that our team loaded with superstars found the desire to push and press hard almost every game. I'm talking 08 to 11 period.
And these pussies can't even maintain that for half a season. They either get injured or can't get up for a match with Las Palmas or fucking Leganes.
Because all time great players hold themselves accountable to their all time great reputation.

For the most part, their motivation levels are different and intrinsic and if not intrinsic, seeing other teammates at that level brings out their commitment.

We don’t have a single player who would get into our 08-11 XI except for Lamine instead of Pedro.

You only become a true superstar by winning big trophies and playing a major role in said trophies.
 
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Messigician

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We don’t have a single player who would get into our 08-11 XI except for Lamine instead of Pedro.
Behave

Pedro completed the 2009–10 season with 52 appearances in all competitions and 23 goals becoming the only player to score in every single competition a club has played in during a season.

Yamal has ways to go before reaching this level of goal scoring
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Behave

Pedro completed the 2009–10 season with 52 appearances in all competitions and 23 goals becoming the only player to score in every single competition a club has played in during a season.

Yamal has ways to go before reaching this level of goal scoring
You need some electro therapy again?

I’ll up the voltage this time :mou:
 

Messigician

Senior Member
In 1992, when Marcelo Bielsa was manager of Newell's, the club lost 6-0 and angry fans turned up outside his house.

He came to the front door in his pyjamas, with a GRENADE in his hand, and threatened to pull the pin if they didn't leave 😂

When the supporters did flee, Bielsa then chased them down the street and shouted 'do you still want to talk? ' whilst in his pyjamas.

Much like what Messigician will do if Kingleo tries any stunts with voltage
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
In 1992, when Marcelo Bielsa was manager of Newell's, the club lost 6-0 and angry fans turned up outside his house.

He came to the front door in his pyjamas, with a GRENADE in his hand, and threatened to pull the pin if they didn't leave 😂

When the supporters did flee, Bielsa then chased them down the street and shouted 'do you still want to talk? ' whilst in his pyjamas.

Much like what Messigician will do if Kingleo tries any stunts with voltage
You’re my favorite troll on this forum.

Nice self-reference in 3rd person :lol:
 

RedxMAK

Active member
Behave

Pedro completed the 2009–10 season with 52 appearances in all competitions and 23 goals becoming the only player to score in every single competition a club has played in during a season.

Yamal has ways to go before reaching this level of goal scoring
Agreed
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Strength?, when did we start talking about which team can lift more.

You have to be doing a lot of mental gymnastics to make up for the fact that half way through the seaso

the team sits at exactly the same position as it did last season, which was the worse season we had.

under if we go by your words is the worst manager in recent Barca history.

So what does that say about Flick? Lol.

The great thing about league football, is you can never hide, you get exactly what you deserve, and we are where we are Right now, let's hope he can turn it around, because losing this league would be hella embarrassing.

The bolded part is correct. The league in the long run mirrors your consistency and you get what you deserve at the end. And right now we are paying the 'switch off' games against Sociedad Betis Osasuna Celta and Palmas
more than the Leganes one, which 99% of the times we win on the same chances

However, you know damn well what I mean by strength. Dont act...
This team is light years ahead of Xavi's mess, and that in LL too...
We can boss any team we like with many goals if we are concentrated enough.

With Xavi the team didn't lose points because they 'switched off'. We were trying and we could not even beat the Granadas easily (let alone the Gironas and above who were making us laughing stock), and whenever we did beat them, that would be the lucky 1-0s or so, scrapping for some goal with the players prisoned in some rigid formations where they did not know what to do

Big difference, and that is reflected in the 'goals scored' if you wanna look at a hard stat.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
The bolded part is correct. The league in the long run mirrors your consistency and you get what you deserve at the end. And right now we are paying the 'switch off' games against Sociedad Betis Osasuna Celta and Palmas
more than the Leganes one, which 99% of the times we win on the same chances

However, you know damn well what I mean by strength. Dont act...
This team is light years ahead of Xavi's mess, and that in LL too...
We can boss any team we like with many goals if we are concentrated enough.

With Xavi the team didn't lose points because they 'switched off'. We were trying and we could not even beat the Granadas easily (let alone the Gironas and above who were making us laughing stock), and whenever we did beat them, that would be the lucky 1-0s or so, scrapping for some goal with the players prisoned in some rigid formations where they did not know what to do

Big difference, and that is reflected in the 'goals scored' if you wanna look at a hard stat.
That's of ifs & cans in your statement.

Again mentally gymnastics and narrative driving to try and cover a simply fact, that flick is half way through the season matching exactly the worse season Xavi has ever had at barca.

I'd be surprised if Xavi ever had a 1 in 6 run TBH.
 

RedxMAK

Active member
That's of ifs & cans in your statement.

Again mentally gymnastics and narrative driving to try and cover a simply fact, that flick is half way through the season matching exactly the worse season Xavi has ever had at barca.

I'd be surprised if Xavi ever had a 1 in 6 run TBH.
Although I still support Flick strongly and fully believe that this is caused by the players. I wonder why many of you have already lost hope in Flick and I wanna know what manager you would bring in. But I noticed Birdy always allows the players excuse for Flick but not Xavi. Although Flick is a way way better manager than Xavi, it's not fair entirely to blame everything that happened last season on Xavi and I say that the players are as accountable. I feel like I've been yapping on this for too long so I'll stop as I asserted my point already.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
That's of ifs & cans in your statement.

Again mentally gymnastics and narrative driving to try and cover a simply fact, that flick is half way through the season matching exactly the worse season Xavi has ever had at barca.

I'd be surprised if Xavi ever had a 1 in 6 run TBH.
Xavi only had 2 full seasons though, so his worst season is just his second season, hard to tell what that really means.

I think CL deserves to be included in the analysis too, obviously we need to see how that pans out.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Although I still support Flick strongly and fully believe that this is caused by the players. I wonder why many of you have already lost hope in Flick and I wanna know what manager you would bring in. But I noticed Birdy always allows the players excuse for Flick but not Xavi. Although Flick is a way way better manager than Xavi, it's not fair entirely to blame everything that happened last season on Xavi and I say that the players are as accountable. I feel like I've been yapping on this for too long so I'll stop as I asserted my point already.

I still support flick, I've said he should get 2 season at least.

Unless everything implodes.

I'm just highlight the hypocrisy of many here re Xavi with flicks current run, and the mental gymnastics they have to be doing to try and justify flick not improving the teams performance in the league so far this season.

Constantly talking about the CL, you don't win a thing for finishing top 2 in the CL, like myself and a few others have said, I guarantee you flick and almost anyone with a brain would swap 3-5 points in the CL for extra points in the league.
 

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