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JamDav1982

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False.

Pedri is already better than Inter players who got to the final and has putplayed big name players time and again on bigger stage.

Pedri was best mid on park away to Bayern and Inter for example.

Balde Xavi didnt always play... but was Barcas best player away to Man Utd when did.

Usual excuses. The yonger players performed better than likes of experienced Lewa and Busi really.

Gavi is on Xavi as he shouldnt have been a starter due to his level.
 

fergus90

Senior Member
They got hammered by City last season. That was with their 2 best players (Courtois and Benzema).
They now don't have either and they didn't replace them either.
Yup. Barca has a huge chance to retain the league this year. Massive opportunity will be missed if it doesn’t happen given the composition of Madrids squad.
 

JamDav1982

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Pedri was 20 and has been best player at a Euros and been best mid on park v Real, PSG, Bayern and Inter in recent seasons.

Stop with this 'menality' nonsense.

He and Balde performed well in Europe and v Real... better than many of their more 'experienced' team mates have in those big games.

Barca has a team full of CL and trophy winners compared to likes of Inter.

Absolutely lame excuse.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yup. Barca has a huge chance to retain the league this year. Massive opportunity will be missed if it doesn’t happen given the composition of Madrids squad.
True. But retaining a difficult league is... difficult. Factor that in. Complacency and mental exhaustion is gonna kick in. It's gonna be a lot more difficult than last year. People should stop taking it for granted by pretending that Madrid are shit. They are gonna be more focused in La Liga for sure. They are not coming high from a La Liga + CL double now.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
True. But retaining a difficult league is... difficult. Factor that in. Complacency and mental exhaustion is gonna kick in. It's gonna be a lot more difficult than last year. People should stop taking it for granted by pretending that Madrid are shit. They are gonna be more focused in La Liga for sure.

No on is claiming Real are 'shit' or taking league title for granted.

Really it is you making out Real are so superior all over park and Barca so far behind even now.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Barca are not far behind. If they face in CL Madrid are like 60-40 favorites. In La Liga, it's even closer. If Madrid sign Mbappe soon, it's gonna be a big gap, sure... But atm, not a big gap. Barca are expected to fight neck and neck for the title 100%.

I'd say a top 3 player like Vinicius is the major difference atm. If he gets injured, I might consider us favorites. He's the only player they have that is a level above anything Barca have offensively.
 

fergus90

Senior Member
True. But retaining a difficult league is... difficult. Factor that in. Complacency and mental exhaustion is gonna kick in. It's gonna be a lot more difficult than last year. People should stop taking it for granted by pretending that Madrid are shit. They are gonna be more focused in La Liga for sure. They are not coming high from a La Liga + CL double now.
Two of the players Ancelotti relied on in Benzema and Courtois are gone or injured.

I don’t see anyone in that current Madrid side getting 20 goals personally.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Barca are not far behind. If they face in CL Madrid are like 60-40 favorites. In La Liga, it's even closer.

Ok that is more balanced.

Well done finally.

Not much in it but Real not far superior at moment and were not a year ago when made out as time showed.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
True. But retaining a difficult league is... difficult. Factor that in. Complacency and mental exhaustion is gonna kick in. It's gonna be a lot more difficult than last year. People should stop taking it for granted by pretending that Madrid are shit. They are gonna be more focused in La Liga for sure. They are not coming high from a La Liga + CL double now.
They were shite last season... and now the two talismans of their team are gone.

How can you possibly think they will do better? Ancelotti without Courtois and Benzema should be a walk for Barca.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
They were shite last season... and now the two talismans of their team are gone.

How can you possibly think they will do better? Ancelotti without Courtois and Benzema should be a walk for Barca.
They have a general history of overperforming in CL (more than other big teams like us, Bayern, Pool at least). Whether it's luck, referee favoritism, mentality, player quality or combination of those, the results are evident.

It's not like Serghei is screaming at the rooftops about a 1 or 2 time CL winner or something :lol:
 

serghei

Senior Member
Because last season Madrid lost the league vs smaller teams. They even had superior h2h vs Barca. If focused, they are gonna lose fewer points due to complacency this season. It's obvious. Even AM has a chance if they sort out their mess. They had a great 2nd part of La Liga last year.

Barca got many narrow wins last season because it was obvious they had an insane motivation to get the title. This is expected to take a hit this season, naturally.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Because last season Madrid lost the league vs smaller teams. They even had superior h2h vs Barca. If focused, they are gonna lose less points due to complacency. It's obvious. Even AM has a chance if they sort out their mess. They had a great 2nd part of La Liga last year.
No they didn't... they picked up 1/6 from Sociedad, 3/6 from Barca, 4/6 from Atletico, 0/6 vs Villarreal, 4/6 vs Betis... if anything, they lost the league due to their poorer performance against the top6 teams.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Because last season Madrid lost the league vs smaller teams. They even had superior h2h vs Barca. If focused, they are gonna lose less points due to complacency. It's obvious. Even AM has a chance if they sort out their mess. They had a great 2nd part of La Liga last year.

Barca beat Real more times than Real beat Barca and Barca beat Atletico home and away.. Real didnt.

Barca beat 4th placed Sociedad home and lost away after league won.. Real dropped points both games v them.

So no it wasnt all about the 'small teams' Barca took more teams off top four

Stop repeating same nonsense when already corrected on this previously.
 

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