Hector Bellerin
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Icarium
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Fast forward 2 weeks from now:
1. Arda is not going to Arsenal, especially not for 26M
2. Bellerin coming to Barca for 48M
3. Barca selling Arda to some random club for 7-8M
Classic Barca.
About IQ, we are collecting a really nice amount of brainless chickens in our starting 11 lately.
We are covered on both wings now with brainless players for the next 5 years.
Mighty Real, beware. We are striking back
Also, our fans will have huge debates next season: "Who is dumber? Alba or Bellerin?"
The amount of crazy shit Arda is pulling no one will want to buy him, he will probably feed off the the club while contributing nothing to the squad. We have too many midfielders. Roberto, Rafinha, Denis, Gomes, Arda, Iniesta, Rakitic, Busi. 8 midfielders, quantity but no quality. Surely we must sell at least two and sign one quality midfielder. Arda and Gomes should leave imo, but we just bought Gomes so rafinha will probably leave.
Having Alba and Bellerin as wing backs is as scary as the thought of having Deulofeu in our RW, i hate this summer already. But Bellerin did show some moments of potential at Arsenal, he is better than Vidal and Roberto i think, but he is definitely not starting material.
RIZALDINHO
Member
hopefully we don't sign him because there better rb out there that we can sign.
serghei
Senior Member
The levels of hate here are starting to be alarming.Bellerin is an improvement at RB. I believe that the best option in the market is Semedo from Benfica. But I'd put Bellerin as no2.
Yes, he is inconsistent. However:
a) He is only 22. Consistency will come if he is professional and motivated
b) He is a La Masia player, so playing Barca football should not be as hard as with some other players, who would maybe take more time to get accustomed.
c) Despite his age, he has played quite a lot of seasons at the highest level. We want players who are young but already experienced enough to make a quick impact. Bellerin, like him or not, fits that description. Having 3 seasons in PL and in CL at 22 is pretty impressive.
d) He is fast and he is aggressive. Two main strengths that are very important for a Barca RB. This aggressiveness can help him develop his defensive game quite a lot, and once it is used wisely, he can be a very hard player to beat in 1 vs 1 duels, which is key at Barca.
I think Semedo is a better player because he is more creative, but Bellerin would also be a very good transfer imo. Why? Because he has the right qualities, mostly the phisicality and the pitbull attitude to do both phases well and held his own in defence as well as in individual duels.
I think there is room for growth and enough quality at the present to make a move. Either Semedo as the first option, or Bellerin as 2nd. I think they are better than that idiot Aurier or Perreira.
The market is not exactly stacked with top RBs. Which is why old dudes like Alves and Lahm are still top 5 to this day.
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FinBarcelonafan
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Bellerin is an improvement at RB. I believe that the best option in the market is Semedo from Benfica. But I'd put Bellerin as no2.
Yes, he is inconsistent. However:
a) He is only 22. Consistency will come if he is professional and motivated
b) He is a La Masia player, so playing Barca football should not be as hard as with some other players, who would maybe take more time to get accustomed.
c) Despite his age, he has played quite a lot of seasons at the highest level. We want players who are young but already experienced enough to make a quick impact. Bellerin, like him or not, fits that description. Having 3 seasons in PL and in CL at 22 is pretty impressive.
d) He is fast and he is aggressive. Two main strengths that are very important for a Barca RB. This aggressiveness can help him develop his defensive game quite a lot, and once it is used wisely, he can be a very hard player to beat in 1 vs 1 duels, which is key at Barca.
I think Semedo is a better player because he is more creative, but Bellerin would also be a very good transfer imo. Why? Because he has the right qualities, mostly the phisicality and the pitbull attitude to do both phases well and held his own in defence as well as in individual duels.
I think there is room for growth and enough quality at the present to make a move. Either Semedo as the first option, or Bellerin as 2nd. I think they are better than that idiot Aurier or Perreira.
The market is not exactly stacked with top RBs. Which is why old dudes like Alves and Lahm are still top 5 to this day.
This post makes me feel better about Bellerin. You make a lot of good points.
weloveyuner
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BBZ8800
Senior Member
Bellerin is an improvement at RB. I believe that the best option in the market is Semedo from Benfica. But I'd put Bellerin as no2.
You didn't write too much about his attacking and link up play.
He is quite similar to Alba.
If we will be getting from him the same which we are getting from Alba on the left (attacking wise), that means that we will play with 9 men majority of matches in the future.
You can pass him the ball in attack and nothing smart will happen.
He will dribble through 3 players and lose the ball, run with the ball out of bounds a few times per match and similar.
Attacking wise/IQ wise/who is a better fit for our possession attacking game, Vidal looks like Xavi compared to Bellerin.
And yet, we made jokes for 2 years about Vidal here.
Now we'll splash 50M on a guy who is a few levels below Vidal in attack.
Also, remember matches against PSG and Juve away.
Now remove RB Roberto and put RB Bellerin.
Do you think that our game would have any improvement with this guy on a field?
Would we create 1-2 chances more with Bellerin?
I don't see how this guy will contribute to our style of attacking.
Again, Messi is probably pissed as hell.
RM is winning CL title after title, and Messi will have to play with this "maestro" in his last few years of his (lately ruined) career:
For now, I see Bellerin as a mixture of Alba and Adama with a price of 50M.
This Robert guy (director) is a pure gold.
serghei
Senior Member
[MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION], he's better and has way more potential than Vidal. Yes, he is similar to Alba. Which is not bad at all.
You know things are off when we use a great fullback and CL winner like Alba, scorer in the Euro final among other things, as if he is an example of a bad player. Very not true. Jordi Alba is top 5 LBs in the world when on form.
You know things are off when we use a great fullback and CL winner like Alba, scorer in the Euro final among other things, as if he is an example of a bad player. Very not true. Jordi Alba is top 5 LBs in the world when on form.
behindbrowneyes
Well-known member
That's exactly what I think. We paid 14M for Alba and there are no signs Bellerin will become a better fullback than Alba was at his best. Even by taking into consideration that the market is highly inflated: 50M for Bellerins class is way too much. We can argue to pay 25M + 5M for him in today's market, but everything above is just ridiculous.
I know we are desperately searching for a RB, but we shouldn't spend a shitload on an average player.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
This thing how someone is a top xx on some position doesn't mean too much.
Masch could be the best Cdm in the world, but for Barca's style he is a disaster of a Cdm.
Alba offers nothing in attack.
Neymar isn't passing at all anymore to him.
If you give him the ball, he will just do some nonsense and kill the action (even more than Ney).
So, imagine a midfield: Seri, Busi, Raki.
MSN and Alba and Belle as fullbacks.
Now, we play against some midtable team and they parked a bus.
Raki is old and can't run.
Busi stays at his position.
MSN are upfront.
The only guy who is trying to create something is Seri.
If you pass the ball to Alba, he will run out of bounds with the ball, let's say and nothing will happen.
If you pass the ball to Bellerin, the same.
This season, when we had Roberto, Messi didn't pass to him, since nothing would happen when you pass to Roberto (since he is not a RB).
Now the same will happen with Bellerin.
I mean, just remember how Alba plays against parked buses.
Now we will have two twins on both flanks.
Bellerin would be a good guy for some different, counterattacking team (maybe for Mou's teams).
For Barca, this will be an epic disaster. People will start to call for Roberto and Vidal after 2 Months.
Also, one more thing, compare IQ and an attacking contribution and link up play of Marcelo and Carvajal with Alba and Belle.
Then in May 2018, we can cry and whine together how RM won another CL league due to luck and easy draws.
While not too many mention how our poor team and horrible transfers are indirectly handing trophies into RM's arms.
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