Hector Bellerin

[serghei]

This thing how someone is a top xx on some position doesn't mean too much.

Masch could be the best Cdm in the world, but for Barca's style he is a disaster of a Cdm.

Alba offers nothing in attack.
Neymar isn't passing at all anymore to him.
If you give him the ball, he will just do some nonsense.

So, imagine a midfield: Seri, Busi, Raki.
MSN and Alba and Belle as fullbacks.

Now, we play against some midtable team and they parked a bus.
Raki is old and can't run.
Busi stays at his position.
MSN are upfront.
The only guy who is trying to create something is Seri.

If you pass the ball to Alba, he will run out of bounds with the ball, let's say and nothing will happen.
If you pass the ball to Bellerin, the same.

This season, when we had Roberto, Messi didn't pass to him, since nothing would happen when you pass to Roberto (since he is not a RB).
Now the same will happen with Bellerin.
I mean, just remember how Alba plays against parked buses.
Now we will have two twins on both flanks.

Bellerin would be a good guy for some different, counterattacking team (maybe for Mou's teams).
For Barca, this will be an epic disaster. People will start to call for Roberto and Vidal after 2 Months.

Also, one more thing, compare IQ and an attacking contribution and link up play of Marcelo and Carvajal with Alba and Belle.

Then in May 2018, we can cry and whine together how RM won another CL league due to luck and easy draws.
While not too many mention how our poor team and horrible transfers are indirectly handing trophies into RM's arms.

Carvajal is quite similar to Bellerin imo. He is strong, fast, delivers good crosses. Just that he does it with consistency, but make no mistake he plays in a very conservative way. He is not that technical as you might think, nor is he involved in complex combinations or highly imaginative plays, like the likes of Marcelo and Alves. Marcelo is the technical one. Carvajal is very much like Alba with better end product and slightly worse link-up play. Slightly better in defence, though by very little.

I think you underestimate just how important are the right tactics, and how important it is to have the tactical aspects spot on from the start. Players can often play in 2-3 tactical setups. And it is up to you as a manager to make sure that you use these players the right way.

You are talking about playmaking and rigtbacks as if there are a lot of Alves-like players out there that we can sign, and we're choosing Bellerin just for the fun of it. Very not so. Most of the players that people here give as alternatives to Bellerin are actually the same type of player more or less. What does Aurier for example do, that Bellerin doesn't? He's almost the same type of player.

We need to understand that Marcelo and Alves are ATG quality (Alves is higher because he is a better defender, while being as good offensively). Calling them RB/LB is telling half the story really, and it is completely unjust to demand from other players a similar output.

In other words, if a style is too 'glued' to a player and can't be played without the individual quality of that player, you must make a change and redefine the role. Bellerin can work well if we don't treat him as if he's the spanish rejuvenated version of Dani.

Players like Alba, Carvajal, Aurier, Bellerin, and others are not dumb just because they can't take in more responsibility than a normal RB usually takes in, or because they play as normal fullbacks do.

I'll tell you what. If our play on the right needs an all time great talent like Alves to work well, well that's a problem right there.

 

[xXKonan]

I don't think Bellerin is garbage or anything, but going by his current skill set I think he's better suited for the EPL than La Liga myself. If he comes well I hope Valverde can help him out a lot and improve on some of his overall game.

 

[JamDav1982]

i don't even know why he is considered as our first option instead azpilicueta,cesar covers both sides plus he's ten times better player than bellerin,he could be hq version of adriano for us

He will be 28 at start of season and wont want to leave Chelsea who wont want to sell him.

 

[serghei]

We should just discard everyone who is over 25-26 years old.

 

[hulinat]

i wouldnt mind havin sextor on the right flanks.

 

[vlad]

I agree with BBZ, he really isnt improvment after vidal and roberto, and board want to spend 40+ M, crazy


Edit: case similar to fabregas

 

[BarçaBarça]

I agree with BBZ, he really isnt improvment after vidal and roberto, and board want to spend 40+ M, crazy


Edit: case similar to fabregas

I agree that someone else would be smarter to buy, like Semedo or another talented RB. But this is getting out of hand: Bellerin is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Vidal, come on.

 

[xXKonan]

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[Alik]

I agree that someone else would be smarter to buy, like Semedo or another talented RB. But this is getting out of hand: Bellerin is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Vidal, come on.

Maybe in defense. But not in attack.

 

[xXKonan]

Seen a lot of Arsenal fans claiming the interview by MD and Sport being fake despite their being videos and pics of said interview. I mean not a big fan of spending a lot of money on him but seeing some Arsenal going to great lengths in denying the idea of Bellerin considering leaving is just

 

[Zincubus]

Maybe in defense. But not in attack.

Are you seriously suggesting that Vidal is better at attacking than Bellerin !??

I've heard it all now .....

 

[Jombi]

Fabinho should obviously be the first choice. His rumored price is 45m euros. Barca management are drunk on the Catalan though.

 

[Robbie]

Seen a lot of Arsenal fans claiming the interview by MD and Sport being fake despite their being videos and pics of said interview. I mean not a big fan of spending a lot of money on him but seeing some Arsenal going to great lengths in denying the idea of Bellerin considering leaving is just

If he wanted to leave, he wouldn't have signed a contract extension in November, and he definitely wouldn't have signed a 5 year extension.

Besides, if we let Bellerin go we won't have anyone left who can play in his position.

 

[DonAK]

If he wanted to leave, he wouldn't have signed a contract extension in November, and he definitely wouldn't have signed a 5 year extension.

Besides, if we let Bellerin go we won't have anyone left who can play in his position.

Keep him, please.

 

[CatalinR10]

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