İlkay Gündoğan
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iniestaGOAT
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Will be remember as one of the greats to wear this shirt.
LETS FUCKING GO
LETS FUCKING GO
draconifire
NTC with a Positive attitude
His wages of the books. Would have been better if we could have gotten atleast 10m transfer fee. It is what it is.
He did a fine job, but because of his age he has limitations.
Would have rather let araujo go though. Fucking bitchass mentality, bringing down the whole fucking dressing room. I hope flick changes this culture in the club. Bunch of fucking pussies. I hope this first part of season open the fansand the boards eyes that we don't need pussieass Araujo
He did a fine job, but because of his age he has limitations.
Would have rather let araujo go though. Fucking bitchass mentality, bringing down the whole fucking dressing room. I hope flick changes this culture in the club. Bunch of fucking pussies. I hope this first part of season open the fansand the boards eyes that we don't need pussieass Araujo
Messigician
Senior Member
Interesting pep wants him back
Loki
Well-known member
In hindsight, if Gündogan's leaving shows anything, then that Flick isn't as spineless as some fans assess him to be. Gündogan was a Xavi transfer, he wanted him above anything else and under Xavi he played every game. Now Flick comes around the corner and when rumours about Olmo started to appear, many fans including myself critized Deco and Flick for taking away Fermin's playing time for someone, who is not needed.
But the situation is now that Gündogan is leaving and Deco is working to extend Fermin's contract. Turned out it wasn't about Fermin, but Flick wasn't that enthusiastic to keep Gündogan.
And if you think about it, it only logical. Flick demands a strong physical performance, to press non stop. You can't do that with a 36 year old Lewandowski and a 34 year old Gündogan behind him. Our pressing would have had more holes than a swiss cheese. Gündogan is still a class player, but in combination with Lewandowski it wouldn't have worked out for Flick.
Flick confirmed there was a talk between them and I think in this talk Flick told him he isn't an undisputed starter anymore like he was under Xavi. Especially, because in Flick's system there is only one OM spot and not two. Olmo, Pedri, Gavi, Fermin. All young players more capable to perform better in Flick's pressing as well as their salary is way lower than that of Gündo.
And I think Gündogan is too proud to sit on the bench for some kids as former captain of City, so he asked to leave as a consequence and the club has nothing against it, as it helps with their salary limit.
If it happened like that and it sounds very logical to me now, it's the best for all sides. A professional assessment of the general situation without unnecessary feelings. Xavi wanted to get rid of Lewy, Flick didn't count on Gündogan. Every coach has his preferences and Deco listened to Flick in this matter.
But the situation is now that Gündogan is leaving and Deco is working to extend Fermin's contract. Turned out it wasn't about Fermin, but Flick wasn't that enthusiastic to keep Gündogan.
And if you think about it, it only logical. Flick demands a strong physical performance, to press non stop. You can't do that with a 36 year old Lewandowski and a 34 year old Gündogan behind him. Our pressing would have had more holes than a swiss cheese. Gündogan is still a class player, but in combination with Lewandowski it wouldn't have worked out for Flick.
Flick confirmed there was a talk between them and I think in this talk Flick told him he isn't an undisputed starter anymore like he was under Xavi. Especially, because in Flick's system there is only one OM spot and not two. Olmo, Pedri, Gavi, Fermin. All young players more capable to perform better in Flick's pressing as well as their salary is way lower than that of Gündo.
And I think Gündogan is too proud to sit on the bench for some kids as former captain of City, so he asked to leave as a consequence and the club has nothing against it, as it helps with their salary limit.
If it happened like that and it sounds very logical to me now, it's the best for all sides. A professional assessment of the general situation without unnecessary feelings. Xavi wanted to get rid of Lewy, Flick didn't count on Gündogan. Every coach has his preferences and Deco listened to Flick in this matter.
malvolio
Senior Member
Mate, it doesn't tell us anything. Could be just as well Laporta telling him there is no money to pay a retiring kebab and we are overloaded on that position anyway with Olmo coming in. Gundogan is done anyway, that was evident at the Euros.
Flick is a begger that should thank his lucky stars he got this job. No way he has the pedigree to stand up to the board.
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
Gato just ignoring the elephant in the room that he's accused of being that psychotic poster that argued for 120 pages with JamDav 
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jamrock
Senior Member
Multiple factors in him moving, like many things in life.
I think flick doesn't like/rate him, just going by the German national team.
He was a Xavi signing.
His wages.
Plus I think he doesn't like playing with all these kids, that are always injured, the experience hasn't been what he planned for.
I think flick doesn't like/rate him, just going by the German national team.
He was a Xavi signing.
His wages.
Plus I think he doesn't like playing with all these kids, that are always injured, the experience hasn't been what he planned for.
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