Co0ter
Senior Member
No shit haha I don't think Laporta made a single statement the entire transfer window that was actually true.
İlkay Gündoğan
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Part of the reason that he joined the club were the calls from Germany teammate Marc-Andre ter Stegen, and former Borussia Dortmund teammate Robert Lewandowski. Gundogan did not see much in the way of character in the dressing room while he was there though, and his veteran colleagues were part of that.
Joan Fontes explains that Gundogan felt ter Stegen, now the captain of the club, did not raise his voice often enough, and kept himself to himself most of the time. Meanwhile with Lewandowski, the Polish striker was not helping the youngsters development much – his complaints to young players during games were well-documented last season. Equally, if Barcelona came out on the losing side of games, but Lewandowski had scored, Gundogan felt that the 36-year-old was all too content with matters.
Joan Fontes explains that Gundogan felt ter Stegen, now the captain of the club, did not raise his voice often enough, and kept himself to himself most of the time. Meanwhile with Lewandowski, the Polish striker was not helping the youngsters development much – his complaints to young players during games were well-documented last season. Equally, if Barcelona came out on the losing side of games, but Lewandowski had scored, Gundogan felt that the 36-year-old was all too content with matters.
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Mike the Knife
Rumours like these are agenda driven since none of the principals can corroborate anything - entorno nonsense
However, it would not surprise me at all if true. There is an absence of experienced leadership in the squad which is natural when most are quite young. Mats, not surprising that he lacks some leadership charisma nor is surprising with Lewy who is a goal scorer first than a leader in dressing room
Gundogan would’ve been ideal save for the bizarre Araujo outburst but we all were a bit traumatized by that match
Can Lamine lead the squad at 17? Unlikely, even though he continues to be the main protagonist nor should that be the case.
I think a proper dressing room leader is indeed sorely missing though - whom would you choose to reinforce the squad from sporting and experience perspective? Rodri would be a natural choice but that’s never going to happen
Maybe we have him already in Raphinha or even Araujo but unfortunately the latter appears to still have one foot out the door
However, it would not surprise me at all if true. There is an absence of experienced leadership in the squad which is natural when most are quite young. Mats, not surprising that he lacks some leadership charisma nor is surprising with Lewy who is a goal scorer first than a leader in dressing room
Gundogan would’ve been ideal save for the bizarre Araujo outburst but we all were a bit traumatized by that match
Can Lamine lead the squad at 17? Unlikely, even though he continues to be the main protagonist nor should that be the case.
I think a proper dressing room leader is indeed sorely missing though - whom would you choose to reinforce the squad from sporting and experience perspective? Rodri would be a natural choice but that’s never going to happen
Maybe we have him already in Raphinha or even Araujo but unfortunately the latter appears to still have one foot out the door
Gazzznigga
Active member
Look, i dont think it is up for a debate anymore that Gundogan decided to leave Barca on his own, he made his feelings obvious about the way club was being managed and the mentality of the team, right from the first El classico.....
....those trying to spin it on Olmo arriving as an ingenious plan by the board are mere choirboys with empty boxes upstairs....they just lap on any nonsense put out there by the board/press. If that makes them happy though....
....those trying to spin it on Olmo arriving as an ingenious plan by the board are mere choirboys with empty boxes upstairs....they just lap on any nonsense put out there by the board/press. If that makes them happy though....
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
He thought we're all faggots and went back home. /thread
Gazzznigga
Active member
Hmmm!!....only issue is olmo's legs are only available 40% of the season......giving up a 100% available but older legs for younger and faster legs that you can only use 40% and then paying 60m for it is the truest definition of stupidity.
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Masetro10
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Except with the old legs it's kinda useless as we are never beating a big team with his weaknesses. Man City can cover his weaknesses. We cannot
Gazzznigga
Active member
ha ha!!...cant believe what i am reading here. Olmo is a guarantee for beating big teams?
a broke club pay a princely 60m for younger but partially available legs..to guarantee beating big teams while not being sure if the legs will be available when playing those big teams..... Wow!!!
Wonderful reasoning....barca economics...lol
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Maradona37
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Bit of a strawman argument - I don't see anyone claiming Olmo 'guarantees beating big teams' - I don't say Masetro using that word 'guarantee' at all - correct me if wrong and he did say that. Nobody can guarantee beating anyone in football.
He maybe thinks Olmo at this point in his career helps more than Gundogan (if fit, as the fitness issue is a good point you make), which is a reasonable opinion even though it might not be correct. It's a good point he makes too about City being a better team and able to compensate for Gundogan's weaknesses, but you just jump over that in your anger that someone criticised Gundogan.
Iniesta Ultra
Senior Member
He downsized his nose too much but it was huge. There no creampies at City though either.
Gazzznigga
Active member
Dont get what you are writing about, man. much of here and there and all not adding up. Maybe you just felt like jumping in on this one.
So what did they pay 60m and also letting go of a more skilled, more experienced,more versatile, less injury prone and higher valued player with a far lower TCO if not for an assurance/guarantee that the replacement will help in "beating" big teams....C'mon man!!!
Buying Olmo for that much and dispensing a "better but older legs" could only have been induced either by an "assurance" that you will "beat" big teams with him otherwise it is plain buffoonery(no other way to spin it).
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serghei
Senior Member
Let's see if they can with no Rodri.
Masetro10
Member
Oh they can believe that. Maybe not UCL
serghei
Senior Member
I doubt they win the league this time with Rodri out for the season. He's their most important player.
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