FinBarcelonafan
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I agree with this. Rakitic is worth way more than 20 million. At that price It would make no sense to sent him packing.
Ivan Rakitić
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I agree with this. Rakitic is worth way more than 20 million. At that price It would make no sense to sent him packing.
ronniecro
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so lets get rid of a proven player because portuguese fraud can still turn out good?
Pepe Silvia
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Rakitic is proven at top level and has atleast two seasons of football left w proper tactics. I back Rakitic to stay. Gomes can piss off he stinks .
ebieymjunior
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Don't get me wrong, I think Gomes should be sold
It's just that if one should stay, I'd personally prefer to sell Rakitic as I don't think he'd be necessary with Roberto in the team.
Then, if things don't improve with Gomes sell him the next year (it's not like his market value is high right now) - but I'd prefer he be sold now.
Interlop
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If Verratti comes i think we should sell Rakitic. He never shined in our midfield in my opinion, either it was tactics or lack of quality is doesn't matter cause it's the last year we can get something upwards 50 mil for him.Plus, Roberto has the same abilities minus the crazy strikes Rakitic makes twice or thrice per season. By selling him we can fund the signing of Dembele. Rakitic - 55m, Arda - 25mil, Rafinha - 30m, Munir - 15m, Tello - 15m, Vermaelen, Douglas, Mathieu, Samper(with buy-back) - 10m. That wil be 150m€ from sales, combined with our budget we can get Verratti, Dembele, Semedo I reckon. Or, it's early in the morning, haven't slept in 30 hours, have exam in 3 hours at biochemistry, I'm freaking out and a I'm talking bullsh*t
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God Serena
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Sell Samper before even considering giving him a first team chance? Our first La Masia player to play in every one of our youth teams shipped off like he's just another piece of dead weight before he even gets on the ship
This mentality is exactly why we're in such a deep shithole in the first place.
FinBarcelonafan
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50 mil for Rakitic sounds a bit high. Maybe 40 mil. There's no way anyone pays 15 mil for Tello. He is going on another loan.
I'd say realistic numbers, Rakitic 35-40 mil. Arda, 15-20 mil max. (especially after his latest idiotic things.), Rafinha we could get 30 mil, I wouldn't even think about selling cheaper and actually I don't want to sell him. Munir maybe 10 mil. Valencia didn't want to buy him for 12 mil. We might get 10 mil for combined for Vermaelen and Mathieu.
So that would be 100-110 mil, but I wouldn't want to sell Rafinha, so 70-80 mil €. Rakitic I would sacrifice, If It would mean we would get Veratti. Arda as well.(but I wouldn't call that sacrifice!
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BBZ8800
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I think that you are overrating our players.
I have no idea which team would pay 45 for Raki or 25 for Arda.
You guys probably think: when Barca asks for Bellerin or Semedo, they cost 50m, then Raki is surely also worth 50m.
Well, first, Semedo and Bellerin are 22. Rakitic is 29 and declining fast.
Further, supply and demand. Top teams with money, like Barca, are trying to buy Semedo. So, a rich team with money is a buyer, so the price is inflated.
On the other hand, who would buy Rakitic?
Italian teams don't have money, French also (except Psg). Rakitic surely won't go to a midtable Spanish club, plus midtable teams won't pay 45m for a 29 years old cm.
He can only go to Epl.
Also, Rafinha. He can't play in any top team (lack of quality). That means that Rm, Bayern, Juve, Atletico, Psg, top Epl teams won't buy him.
So, again, only suitors for Rafinha could be Roma, midtable Spanish teams and midtable Epl teams. Roma and Spanish teams won't pay more than 10-15. So again, Raki could be sold only to top Epl teams, and Rafinha can go only to Roma/Valencia for 12m or to a team like West Ham for 20-25m.
It is NOT as if every single player today is worth 40-50m. Only players who are chased by Barca, Rm and top Epl teams are worth 50m.
Rafinha is nowhere near that category.
Always ask yourself: in which teams a player xx could play and how much THAT team could pay?
I have no idea which team would pay 45 for Raki or 25 for Arda.
You guys probably think: when Barca asks for Bellerin or Semedo, they cost 50m, then Raki is surely also worth 50m.
Well, first, Semedo and Bellerin are 22. Rakitic is 29 and declining fast.
Further, supply and demand. Top teams with money, like Barca, are trying to buy Semedo. So, a rich team with money is a buyer, so the price is inflated.
On the other hand, who would buy Rakitic?
Italian teams don't have money, French also (except Psg). Rakitic surely won't go to a midtable Spanish club, plus midtable teams won't pay 45m for a 29 years old cm.
He can only go to Epl.
Also, Rafinha. He can't play in any top team (lack of quality). That means that Rm, Bayern, Juve, Atletico, Psg, top Epl teams won't buy him.
So, again, only suitors for Rafinha could be Roma, midtable Spanish teams and midtable Epl teams. Roma and Spanish teams won't pay more than 10-15. So again, Raki could be sold only to top Epl teams, and Rafinha can go only to Roma/Valencia for 12m or to a team like West Ham for 20-25m.
It is NOT as if every single player today is worth 40-50m. Only players who are chased by Barca, Rm and top Epl teams are worth 50m.
Rafinha is nowhere near that category.
Always ask yourself: in which teams a player xx could play and how much THAT team could pay?
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fergus90
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Rakitic is the level of player we need for the squad not the first 11. World class to me means he'd get into any sides starting 11, which he wouldn't. He did very well in the first season but Xavi was still in the squad and would've been a major influence still behind the scenes and for large parts was better than Iniesta in 14/15.
It would be a mistake selling him when part of our downfall last season was lack of strength in terms of squad depth.
It would be a mistake selling him when part of our downfall last season was lack of strength in terms of squad depth.
Trickykid
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How so?Sell Samper before even considering giving him a first team chance? Our first La Masia player to play in every one of our youth teams shipped off like he's just another piece of dead weight before he even gets on the ship
This mentality is exactly why we're in such a deep shithole in the first place.
God Serena
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If we had Thiago our midfield wouldn't be so... well, just look at it. Do we buy Gomes and Arda (70m+) if we have Thiago on the teamsheet? I don't think so. If we have the kind of money we spent on them available to buy a RB we're sitting pretty and our desperate need for a class CM would be just a small notice that we should improve our midfield.
And that's not even mentioning Grimaldo.
Trickykid
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Thiago's situation had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Samper's. Everyone could see Thiago was the real deal, and God know's why Tito didn't play him more (and why Thiago himself didn't have patience to wait out Xavi's inevitable decline and ultimate departure). Samper on the other hand, has shown little to nothing since he left the youth teams, and while I still harbor a naive hope, that he could turn out good, there's really not much to support such a claim.
Going by your logic, we can't let anyone go, just in case they turn out to be world beaters.
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