Ivan Rakitić
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JohnN
Senior Member
FDJ-Arthur-Coutinho would be my choice. Girona isn't a team to be scared of at the back.
Messi, Suarez and Griezmann should be enough firepower alone (hell, replace one with dembele even), add Coutinho and alba to that, and we should be fine.
Using preseason stats to justify him starting. How desperate can his fanboys get
We all know he will shit the bed again in the big games, and that these preseason matches mean nothing for most players besides the new ones.
Otherwise Rafinha would be the GOAT
I bet if it's De Jong you guys will praise him on how GREAT he is 😂
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
No, not really. De Jong's positive presence is clearly visible without even looking at any stats. That's what good midfielder does.
Xaviniesta
Senior Member
Like @Gnidrologist said, De Jong doesnt need stats to look good, so no.
Anyways, I find it interesting that you shit on the same players BBZ shits on, and also fanboy the same players BBZ does. Not to mention, your old account was named BiraBoyZ. Tell me, what are the chances you 2 are the same person?
SeloBarca
Senior Member
😂 You guys have a lot of time to spare
BBZ8800
Senior Member
How many big matches we played last season?
In La Liga:
2 against RM
2 against AM
and a random match here and there
In a CDR:
We played against RM with a mighty Malcom and won.
So, not a big match either...
CL:
Lyon x2, Man Utd x2, Liverpool x2
I posted stats and ratings after Lyon and Mn Utd, and Raki was our best midfielder (except at Barcaforum, where for example Arthur is the best by default, regardless of what actually happened on a field).
And you guys are rewriting a history all the time.
When I read this forum, it sounds as if Raki is constantly the worst player on a field in big matches.
While, his competitor, Arthur is running a show every single time.
Go back to any big La Liga match from last season:
Real 1:0
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1316773/LiveStatistics/Spain-LaLiga-2018-2019-Real-Madrid-Barcelona
Raki 8,29 rating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKBNEKczUbc
Busi 6,90
Arthur 6,64
Barcaforum verdict: Arthur MOTM, Raki the worst on a field.
Real 5:1
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1316434/LiveStatistics/Spain-LaLiga-2018-2019-Barcelona-Real-Madrid
Busi 7,16
Raki 7,12
Arthur 6,49
Barcaforum verdict: Arthur MOTM
Whoscored remove stats for a CL for the last season.
But I remember when I was posting stats and rating this spring, that Arthur was the worst every single time between these 3 guys.
Even in big matches.
This is why Arthur dropped to a 5th choice from EV at the end of a season.
Yet, here a mob is selling a story how Arthur (and Vidal) were the best midfielders.
So, Raki played 54 matches last season.
In how many was he a liability?
= against Liverpool, surely. And here and there against some faster teams.
But what about the other 50 matches?
And a question now:
1. would you rather play Arthur in 50 matches against Mickey Mouse teams where he is useless, ONLY so that he could be in form for Liverpool in April/May?
2. or would you rather play Raki who is better against Mickey Mouse La Liga teams, but sucks in 5 matches against fast teams?
You can easily play players suitable for La Liga in La liga, and Arthur in kamikaze type of matches.
Also, I see that a lot of guys are making fan of goals from midfield and how Raki isn't a goalscorer.
As always, first this is a compilation of Frenkie's and Arthur's goals:
Then you have lots of Raki's lucky goals, the same as like the one from yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikIm74v22qo
Not to mention that we have EXACTLY the same type of writing, lol?
Remember last season, there were 10-20-50 users here who said that EV is an idiot for the same reasons:
1. he didn't play mighty Dembele
2. he didn't play mighty Malcom
3. Arthur was subbed off first (even though he is useless in the attacking 3rd where we are spending a majority of our matches)
4. mighty Alena didn't play too much
5. braindead Semedo (in attack) didn't play against weak La Liga Mickey Mouse teams when we needed to attack, create and score
You found a guy who has the same views as me, awesome.
I find it so sad that we had 50 users who believed in these players from above and were posting the same shit in every single topic.
Remember how many posters were mentioning me when Malcom scored a goal (wow), or Dembele had a good game here and there (omg, a 145M player had a good game, I am shocked).
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Deep down you love Arthur and his style of play and you actually can't wait to see him in action with Frenkie. Admit it.
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
Absofuckinglutely!
Not to mention that by playing constantly he would certainly develop into more complete asset and, what is important for me, i might actually start enjoying watching la liga for a change. I've always watched it more for prospect of being entertained by Barca's football. Winning it is nice, but for Barca (or Real) redundant stuff. When it comes to trophies, CL is unquestionably the ultimate goal.
I’m pretty sure that everyone can see that FDJ is a very special player .
I can’t believe we’ve managed to get him .
I’m even happier than when we got Neymar ..
JohnN
Senior Member
I would honestly answer 1. At least try it. What we have been served last year is the same recipe, over and over and over again.
One thing is sure for me. Rakitic and Busquets cannot start together for any fixture. I would have no problem with FDJ, Arthur and Rakitic starting some games.
We need goals from midfield, that would be a big help. Rakitic isn't a goal scoring midfielder though. He has occasional bangers, that's all, which is indeed more than can be said about Arthur, Busquets or De Jong. Remember two things though.
1. Rakitic is the most advanced midfielder of them all.
2. His goals and assists were not so important.
How does this make him better than the others against "Mickey Mouse La Liga teams"? He isn't needed for those games. As yourself said in the past:
From what I understand, you seem to consider Arthur and Alena players that would "strengthen technique and attacking parts of midfield" instead of building a "stonewall defense".
So, is it attacking that Rakitic is better than Arthur or Defending?
Whoscored lists passing, as Rakitic's biggest asset. He is also classified as having no significant weaknesses. Exactly the same thing with Busquets.
Does this seem accurate? Why would you trust this source for anything?
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Xaviniesta
Senior Member
As a regular on this forum, I always see that:
-underoath seems to reply to you specifically, agreeing with your posts 5-10 mins after you post something, meaning they're online when you're online (weird, huh).
-underoath "fanboys" the same players you do, and shits on the same players too.
-underoath's old account was called BiraBoyZ.
All of these things may be a coincidence, but statistically speaking, I doubt it. It's not that far fetched to suspect you 2 might be the same person, typing in a different style. Just an observation I found interesting.
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