Joan Laporta

[jamrock]

Bringing in better tv deals will only him to increase the cash value of CVCs investments, so no that's not a good thing, if it should happen nor would the cvc deal play apart in that happening, since most of the money can't go on squad investments, so if through out own hard work we get a better TV deal they will just be gaining from that investment.

And like porque said Barcelona/Madrid don't need CVC to help that bring in ad dollars & eyes, they do that for themselves and all of LA Liga.

Which is one of a couple of reasons they didn't sign.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

No wonder Laporta pushes so hard for Super League. He is handcuffed.

 

[JamDav1982]

Bringing in better tv deals will only him to increase the cash value of CVCs investments, so no that's not a good thing, if it should happen nor would the cvc deal play apart in that happening, since most of the money can't go on squad investments, so if through out own hard work we get a better TV deal they will just be gaining from that investment.

And like porque said Barcelona/Madrid don't need CVC to help that bring in ad dollars & eyes, they do that for themselves and all of LA Liga.

Which is one of a couple of reasons they didn't sign.

No the improved tv deals would mean more to Barca regardless if CVC got more. If tv deals went up by 20m a season that is a positive of 18m for Barca.

Of course it would be a good thing in that scenario and cover the losses and a bit more from what pay them. That is just the tv deals and income can increase in many other ways.

It is not a case of giving up 500m. It can be a lot less than that and it is what club will currently be weighing up.

On the contary.. top Real and Barca sides are what brings eyes to La Liga and drives the tv deals more than anything else.

The deals will go down qucikly in comparison to other leagues very quickly if continue to lack stars.

 

[jamrock]

Yep a major cash injection from something like the super league with no strings attached is what the club needs to balance it's finances.

Getting $250,000,000 to pay back 3/4 of a billion was never a starter unless we have no other choice.

 

[JamDav1982]

Yep a major cash injection from something like the super league with no strings attached is what the club needs to balance it's finances.

Getting $250,000,000 to pay back 3/4 of a billion was never a starter unless we have no other choice.

What conditions of CVC would you find it acceptable for Laporta to be taking the correct decision and sign it?

 

[jamrock]

What conditions of CVC would you find it acceptable for Laporta to be taking the correct decision and sign it?

I said it in my message you qouted, if we had no other choice is clearly as desperation play which is why they have been kicking the can down the road as much as possible.

Said this the moment that deal was talked about, didn't need 12 months to to understand how bad it is.

We sign if it not signing it means we are put in a even worst position that we are now in the short term.

 

[JamDav1982]

I said it in my message you qouted, if we had no other choice is clearly as desperation play which is why they have been kicking the can down the road as much as possible.

Said this the moment that deal was talked about, didn't need 12 months to to understand how bad it is.

We sign if it not signing it means we are put in a even worst position that we are now in the short term.

There is always a choice.

If there was no other choice it would be signed by now.

Of course it is not a good deal long term. The point has always been about where Barca are now and you seem to have come round to idea there is maybe no choice.

Would you want them to sign it on same conditions as last summer?

You thought deal was same as a loan and deal is as bad then as is now bar maybe some tweaks.

You will decide whether decision is good or bad depending on what Laporta does.

 

[jamrock]

There is always a choice.

If there was no other choice it would be signed by now.

Of course it is not a good deal long term. The point has always been about where Barca are now and you seem to have come round to idea there is maybe no choice.

Would you want them to sign it on same conditions as last summer?

You thought deal was same as a loan and deal is as bad then as is now bar maybe some tweaks.

You will decide whether decision is good or bad depending on what Laporta does.

No their isn't always a choice, if the choice is sign it or we become worst, only one option really.

We are looking for other choices we which why we haven't signed it yet.

It is a loan.

As for the rest ain't got no time to deal with the typical jamdav non sense

 

[JamDav1982]

No their isn't always a choice, if the choice is sign it or we become worst, only one option really.

We are looking for other choices we which why we haven't signed it yet.

It is a loan.

As for the rest ain't got no time to deal with the typical jamdav non sense

Of course there is always a choice. You just dont want Laporta to sign a deal you claim is bad.

As said.. if no choice would be done either way by now and not being deliberated on.

It is not a loan and in past saying should take a loan at better rates is incorrect.

Typical jamrock nonsense.

 

[jamrock]

Of course there is always a choice. You just dont want Laporta to sign a deal you claim is bad.

As said.. if no choice would be done either way by now and not being deliberated on.

It is not a loan and in past saying should take a loan at better rates is incorrect.

Typical jamrock nonsense.

Yea it's not a loan which is why we have to pay back interest, we pay back interest on tv deals & merchandising.

It's a loan that multiple other league have rejected but tebas accepted, it's a loan disguised as revenue, but it doesn't take anyone particularly smart, (which is why I'm surprised you don't understand this) to see it's a loan & a bad one at that, which is why Perez won't touch it.

We only sign it if we have no other choice which is again why it's being dragged out so long.

 

[JamDav1982]

Yea it's not a loan which is why we have to pay back interest, we pay back interest on tv deals & merchandising.

It's a loan that multiple other league have rejected but tebas accepted, it's a loan disguised as revenue, but it doesn't take anyone particularly smart, (which is why I'm surprised you don't understand this) to see it's a loan & a bad one at that, which is why Perez won't touch it.

We only sign it if we have no other choice which is again why it's being dragged out so long.

No its not a loan as counts as income and not as debt.

It is not the same as asking for better terms and getting a loan deal as claimed.

Similar in terms of having to repay it but not not in how would be on books this year when saying as well getting a loan. A loan would solve none of the issues they are thinking accepting CVC for.

As said you are saying no choice as want to back Laporta on whatever choice they make.

If there was no choice would be done by now.

 

[Luftstalag14]

From Laporta’s interview several days ago, it sounded like the CVC deal, even if it were to go ahead, would not help us increase our salary cap by much at all, because of Tebas and La Liga refusing to relent. Perhaps this is why Laporta doesn’t want to do it?

 

[JamDav1982]

From Laporta’s interview several days ago, it sounded like the CVC deal, even if it were to go ahead, would not help us increase our salary cap by much at all, because of Tebas and La Liga refusing to relent. Perhaps this is why Laporta doesn’t want to do it?

It increases it by about 40m currently but I believe the remainder still counts as income towards allowing Barca to get away from the 25% and 33% rules.

It is confusing though so fuck knows.

So they would need the other deals on top of it.

Even if there was some way of trading future salary cap space with providing gaurantees on current deals but La Liga just wont budge. Shambles of a situation.

 

[serghei]

From Laporta?s interview several days ago, it sounded like the CVC deal, even if it were to go ahead, would not help us increase our salary cap by much at all, because of Tebas and La Liga refusing to relent. Perhaps this is why Laporta doesn?t want to do it?

If the CVC deal is not good for the club long term, we shouldn't even do it. No matter the salary cap or not. You just don't go for a long-term crap contract because there is nothing to be earned that would make it worthwhile to take such a big risk and tie the club to a super-long term crap contract. It's not like next season we will win the CL. It's not like signing the CVC deal automatically gets you a world-class team. It brings pretty much jack shit.

There is just no reason to go with a bad deal for the club. We finished 2nd this season, we will play CL, and we will fight for the title with what we have.

 

[Messigician]

PSG signed CVC so it can't be bad