JamDav1982
Senior Member
Nah being in a mess is one part of it and he is only judged on how he deals with that mess anyway.
Barca did not have to gamble and when they do they need to make a much better fist of it and make sure it works.
Joan Laporta
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Nah being in a mess is one part of it and he is only judged on how he deals with that mess anyway.
Barca did not have to gamble and when they do they need to make a much better fist of it and make sure it works.
malvolio
Senior Member
He didn't build a club team. And when it came to that Bayern said no and went with Nagelsman. Also fucked off to NT football retirement home. A fucking impostor
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Usual from Malvolio... will moan about any names but wont suggest who club should go for as coach etc.
fergus90
Senior Member
How many managers in modern football truly build their own team due to time and financial constraints though?
Plus his teams play attractive attacking football.
Not true, he fall out with Salihamidzic and decided to leave himself. They then bought Nagelsmann after he chose to join the NT.
Who would you chose rather then the 'bum' and 'imposter'?
Birdy
Senior Member
You are wasting your time mate
Malvolio will post the same dump shit every day.
He thinks that by saying something many times, it makes it true when in fact it's clueless
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Poch sucks or is meh.
Tuchel is the only option but not sure how long that would work and he doesn't play style Laporta wants Barca to play.
Messi983
Senior Member
I think being patient with Xavi and hope he'll learn from his mistakes and turn this ship around when Busi&Co. finally leave is our best option right now. Changing coaches every year is not a solution if you don't have a clear upgrade and I just don't see one at this point.
While Xavi wasn't Laporta's prefered choice in his first mandate he kept Rijkaard when we were in far worse situation than we are right now so I think he'll stick with Xavi now too.
Mainly because proven coaches just don't want to join this mess and signing another La Liga coach like Setien or give a chance to other former player/inexperienced coach like Marquez or Mascherano is not an answer either. At least not now, they might be given a chance in 5 or 10 years in a different situation.
We could risk with someone like Gallardo (if he'd even want to come which I seriously doubt; the time to get him was probably last year but we were in even bigger mess back then so he'd probably reject our approach) but he could very easy turn into the next Tata Martino.
Other thing to consider is that the last proven WC coach this club has signed was LVG 20 years ago and he only lasted 6 months in his second stint.
Since then we've had:
- Rijkaard who did a good job with Holland NT but was relegated with Sparta Rotterdam a year before he took us over.
- Pep who only managed Barca B in fourth division for a season
- Tito: Pep's right hand
- Martino - never coached in Europe before or after
- Lucho - had a succesfull spell at Barca B before flopping at Roma and getting his career back on track with a solid season at Celta
- EV - most proven/experienced coach we've had after LVG
- Setien - midtable La Liga manager
- Koeman - not really lacking experience but never really done anything special at a club level, he did ok with the Netherlands NT though
- Xavi - two years of coaching in Qatar
So I have hard time to believe we'll now suddenly go out and hire a CL winning manager like Tuchel or Flick and even less someone like Klopp although they all fit that German coach criteria that Laporta is supposedly looking for.
While Xavi wasn't Laporta's prefered choice in his first mandate he kept Rijkaard when we were in far worse situation than we are right now so I think he'll stick with Xavi now too.
Mainly because proven coaches just don't want to join this mess and signing another La Liga coach like Setien or give a chance to other former player/inexperienced coach like Marquez or Mascherano is not an answer either. At least not now, they might be given a chance in 5 or 10 years in a different situation.
We could risk with someone like Gallardo (if he'd even want to come which I seriously doubt; the time to get him was probably last year but we were in even bigger mess back then so he'd probably reject our approach) but he could very easy turn into the next Tata Martino.
Other thing to consider is that the last proven WC coach this club has signed was LVG 20 years ago and he only lasted 6 months in his second stint.
Since then we've had:
- Rijkaard who did a good job with Holland NT but was relegated with Sparta Rotterdam a year before he took us over.
- Pep who only managed Barca B in fourth division for a season
- Tito: Pep's right hand
- Martino - never coached in Europe before or after
- Lucho - had a succesfull spell at Barca B before flopping at Roma and getting his career back on track with a solid season at Celta
- EV - most proven/experienced coach we've had after LVG
- Setien - midtable La Liga manager
- Koeman - not really lacking experience but never really done anything special at a club level, he did ok with the Netherlands NT though
- Xavi - two years of coaching in Qatar
So I have hard time to believe we'll now suddenly go out and hire a CL winning manager like Tuchel or Flick and even less someone like Klopp although they all fit that German coach criteria that Laporta is supposedly looking for.
Sailor Mars
Well-known member
Let's see how the rest of the league and Europa goes with Xavi.
I hope the board have a clear idea of the path to improvement for this summer. DM and RB is the most pressing need, and then probably atleast a winger/midifielder for the attack. And some quality depth for when an injury crisis hits like the one against the backline so far.
There are clear squad issues still remaining due to Barto's terrible reign as Barca prez. post 2014 summer window.
I hope the board have a clear idea of the path to improvement for this summer. DM and RB is the most pressing need, and then probably atleast a winger/midifielder for the attack. And some quality depth for when an injury crisis hits like the one against the backline so far.
There are clear squad issues still remaining due to Barto's terrible reign as Barca prez. post 2014 summer window.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
The squad is good enough to qualify for cl ko stage. Xavi and Laportas delusional wokeness is the problem. Barca way, DNA, philosophy etc won't work and these idiots still think it will. The squad has issues but it's not that bad. It's the club's mindset and management that is by far the biggest issue.
Devils
Senior Member
For the last 2 years I've been in favor of selling this club to oil rich owners. Today just further validates it.
Sorry but Catalans are living in the stone age of football.
Only Catalan pride keeps those 4 clowns as our captains and sign donkeys like Garcia and Bellerin, of whom wouldn't start at most lower mid-table clubs.
Get these Catalans out of the club and the club itself will be in a much better place sporting and financially.
Sorry but Catalans are living in the stone age of football.
Only Catalan pride keeps those 4 clowns as our captains and sign donkeys like Garcia and Bellerin, of whom wouldn't start at most lower mid-table clubs.
Get these Catalans out of the club and the club itself will be in a much better place sporting and financially.
Richard.H
Senior Member
This, the geezers in Barcelona are living 11 years behind rest of humanity.
malvolio
Senior Member
some frustrated individuals in here. Should have gone to sleep boys, Xavi ain't worth losing sleep over.We won't go for ze Jermans. Not in our philosophy and don't think they would like the environment at the club anyway.
Arteta, Gallardo, even a French(Galtier) or Italian(De Zerbi?) guy. Since Ten Hag went to United, that basically rules out the only exciting Dutch manager.
We'll probably get Lucho after the WC is finished.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
We won't go for ze Jermans. Not in our philosophy and don't think they would like the environment at the club anyway.
Arteta, Gallardo, even a French(Galtier) or Italian(De Zerbi?) guy. Since Ten Hag went to United, that basically rules out the only exciting Dutch manager.
We'll probably get Lucho after the WC is finished.
Lucho would be a mistake. Upgrade over Xavi, yes but still lacking in acumen. Lucho had prime MSN and his last two seasons were a limited success. The others are upgrades but questionable. All of them have better jobs at the moment. Why would they come here??
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