Joan Laporta

serghei

Senior Member
You don't get it, do you?

If Arsenal and Liverpool are lower in status than us, then it's our advantage, not disadvantage, in wage negotiations.

I have always said that Barcelona and Madrid are the most prestigious clubs worldwide for any footballer.
Pick any and his dream is to play for one of the two, if not either.
Add to that the advantage of living in the city of Barcelona

That means you don't overpay to get players, as the clown that runs the club did with Kounde Raphina Lewa Gundo etc.,
Liverpool Arsenal and others HAVE to overpay to compete with us

No, it's not. Part of that status is paying top salaries. It's a sign of success. I'm not saying it is good, be careful here, but it is not illogical at all for the most exclusive clubs to pay the most money. You know the meaning of the phrase "if you have to ask, you can't afford it"? It stems from the same connections.

The issue of the club is not spending top money, that's part of the club's status, it's in the decision making in regards to the players that deserve it vs the players that don't. This decision-making has been horrific, especially under Bartomeu.
 
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Temptation

Well-known member
You don't get it, do you?

If Arsenal and Liverpool are lower in status than us, then it's our advantage, not disadvantage, in wage negotiations.

I have always said that Barcelona and Madrid are the most prestigious clubs worldwide for any footballer.
Pick any and his dream is to play for one of the two, if not either.
Add to that the advantage of living in the city of Barcelona

That means you don't overpay to get players, as the clown that runs the club did with Kounde Raphina Lewa Gundo etc.,
Liverpool Arsenal and others HAVE to overpay to compete with us
I agree that Barca are higher status than us but we're just as big a club overall. Current status depends a lot on success in the last 20 years and Barca have had immense success in that period in a style that mesmerized the football world. On top of that, it's a fantastic city to live in for all players and you're guaranteed CL even when the club is in turmoil.

As of today, I consider us slightly behind Bayern and Barca but if we win another CL before Barca, then we need to have a serious conversation.

Arsenal are nowhere near Barca or Liverpool although they do have the London appeal just like Chelsea. Latin American players like London. Maybe not as much as Madrid, Barcelona, Milan or Turin but it helps within the PL.........
 

Temptation

Well-known member
No, it's not. Part of that status is paying top salaries. It's a sign of success. I'm not saying it is good, be careful here, but it is not illogical at all for the most exclusive clubs to pay the most money. You know the meaning of the phrase "if you have to ask, you can't afford it"? It stems from the same connections.

The issue of the club is not spending top money, that's part of the club's status, it's in the decision making in regards to the players that deserve it vs the players that don't. This decision-making has been horrific, especially under Bartomeu.
The issue is that the wage structure gets broken so badly by certain stars that it fucks up the entire wage bill and undeserving players get huge salaries. Domino effect.


When Messi gets paid a ridiculous amount, like it or not, his teammates' agents use it in their contract negotiations.


United's management have that arrogance that you're talking about. They say stuff like "we can afford what nobody can" and "welcome to the adult Disneyland". Look what that did to their sexy, rich, high status Football club. :lol:
 

Porque

Senior Member

'Thing are happening' as Gerard Romero would say

I don't like they are all joint in the movement, but it's a start

Barto part of this?

If so

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Birdy

Senior Member
No, it's not. Part of that status is paying top salaries. It's a sign of success. I'm not saying it is good, be careful here, but it is not illogical at all for the most exclusive clubs to pay the most money. You know the meaning of the phrase "if you have to ask, you can't afford it"? It stems from the same connections.

The issue of the club is not spending top money, that's part of the club's status, it's in the decision making in regards to the players that deserve it vs the players that don't. This decision-making has been horrific, especially under Bartomeu.

No, it's not to give top salaries to incomers no matter age, stage in their career, previous team, previous wages
Only loser clubs do that that play in the hands of smartass managers and players.
It's precisely this shitty logic that bankrupted the club.

And precisely when you KNOW that the WAGE BILL bankrupted the club, you have 0 EXCUSE to pay anyone above the market, like Fatporta did with Kounde, Lewa, Raphina, Gundo, Inigo, Ferran

Fatporta is no better than Bartomeu in this aspect, and make no mistake: if he was president the time Barto was he would be handing the same wages to Messi, Pique, Busquets and Suarez
 

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