Joan Laporta

[JamDav1982]

Even if United have weaker squad after this summer, that's because they are managed worse.

United had a weaker squad last season as did Spurs.

The argument was who was better team... you claimed United better and only anyone with an agenda would disagree.

Wrong as usual as were when claimed Spurs better.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Clueless as fuck. Better squad than CL and La Liga holders at the time, while the squad can't make it past group stages. Get your head out of your ass for a 2nd and realize we hit it right with Laporta, Xavi, and now Deco. Things are looking good, compared to other clubs who have far more resources and achieve far less.

The squad has improved though, despite losing Dembele, I give you that. As a result, we'll probably go pretty far in CL.

I still dont understand how winning the league isn't a indicator of squad strength but going out in the groups is an indicator of squad strength, when you have said yourself we went out in the groups due to many injuries and referees, not a weak squad.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Even if United have weaker squad after this summer, that's because they are managed worse. You simply can't win this argument, no matter how hard you try.

Barca did more with much less. Other managers touted as better options than Xavi are failing with more resources than Barca and Xavi have to work with.

Putting it down to squad quality as if Laporta and Xavi don't have a huge role in that is a copout on your part.

Its true but that doesn't lower the expectations here.

The baseline goal should be LL and CL QF. Anything else is a bonus.

 

[serghei]

I still dont understand how winning the league isn't a indicator of squad strength but going out in the groups is an indicator of squad strength, when you have said yourself we went out in the groups due to many injuries and referees, not a weak squad.

Squad is good. Possibly even very good this season, after working and fixing some weak positions, such as RB and LW. Last La Liga title is an even bigger indicator of the quality work the management team has been putting forward.

It's not an indicator of squad strenght over a squad that won a CL + La Liga double. That is bullshit, from JamDav, you, and anyone else that supports such nonsense.

The reasonable position is Madrid are still a better side, but we're closing in big time.

 

[JamDav1982]

You have spent the last few weeks telling us all how... Lamine is over rated, Ferran is shite and needs to be sold, Gundogan is a year away from Saudi and old etc.

Pedri, Gavi, Balde etc all inexperienced and not the right age to win.

Barca squad is not better than likes of Arsenal etc and laugh at the thought of Barca being 50/50 with any team not named City or Bayern.

This a year after claiming Barca can win for years, Man Utd and Spurs better teams than Barca and tiers ahead.

Now you claim you always support the work of the club and how squad they have.

Absolute delusion as usual.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Squad is good. It's an indicator of squad strenght, and an even bigger indicator of the quality work the management team has been putting forward.

It's not an indicator of squad strenght over a squad that won a CL + La Liga double. That is bullshit, from JamDav, you, and anyone else that supports such nonsense.

There's an easier way to do what you're doing : just compare the squad by using your own eyes and looking at the players.

Worse squads have achieved much bigger things than amazing squads. The achievements clubs have come down to more factors than just the squad quality.

Madrid also won fuck all last year and got smoked in LaLiga and CL... does that not count? Why are you going back 2 seasons to a very different Madrid squad and season rather than taking the most recent evidence?

 

[JamDav1982]

Squad is good. It's an indicator of squad strenght, and an even bigger indicator of the quality work the management team has been putting forward.

It's not an indicator of squad strenght over a squad that won a CL + La Liga double. That is bullshit, from JamDav, you, and anyone else that supports such nonsense.

Nope you are wrong... I said Barca had as good if not slightly better squad than Real AFTER they won the CL and league... Barca then go on to win the league by double digits.

Proven correct.

Had there been no signings by either Barca would have better squad again..

Barca win league and you still think correct to say Barca poor and Real much better.

Also its not just the squad.. Serghie claimed Xavi/board AND the players as a whole resulted in worse team than Man Utd/Spurs and years away from beating Real.

Utter nonsense and proven so.

 

[serghei]

There's an easier way to do what you're doing : just compare the squad by using your own eyes and looking at the players.

Worse squads have achieved much bigger things than amazing squads. The achievements clubs have come down to more factors than just the squad quality.

The eyes and bias of some Xavi haters is not worth much to me. CL + La Liga winner squad is better than Barca squad last season. Can't argue with that, and most won't even go there, except the most desperate posters.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Jamdav made a lot of hits on his predictions last season, just a fact, tbh. Not fair to take credit away, he wasn't wrong.

MATS/FDJ ended up probably being our two MVPs, we won league very easily and Madrid got cooked in CL. He predicted the season well.

 

[serghei]

Jamdav made a lot of hits on his predictions last season, just a fact, tbh. Not fair to take credit away, he wasn't wrong.

MATS/FDJ ended up probably being our two MVPs, we won league very easily and Madrid got cooked in CL. He predicted the season well.

Nah. He hates the manager that made all this work, so he has to take a shit on him and say the squad was amazing and winning La Liga over CL winners was normal and expected.

Complete bullshit.

 

[mc_lovin]

Just own up your shit take (United&Spurs being better) and let us escape from this hell hole timeloop discussion you have with Jammy going on. Or we will burn in purgatory forever.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Nah. He hates the manager that made all this work, so he has to take a shit on him and say the squad was amazing and winning La Liga over CL winners was normal and expected.

Complete bullshit.

Again this same argument can be made in other nonsensical situations.
Can say Chelsea were CL winners in 2021... how can any team be expected to finish above them... they won the CL!!

And ended up losing the league title handily the next year and not even being in the contest for it.

Just because they won a CL doesn't mean they were the best team or best squad. That was done in insane circumstances and their performances before that or after that didn't indicate they were that good.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nah. He hates the manager that made all this work, so he has to take a shit on him and say the squad was amazing and winning La Liga over CL winners was normal and expected.

Complete bullshit.

Haha aye I 'hate' that I was right and that Xavi/squad could win v Real.

While you 'hate' you were wrong on what Xavi/squad could do and bitch about Real not trying hard enough and still being better when Barca won.

Usual.

 

[mc_lovin]

The reasonable position is Madrid are still a better side, but we're closing in big time.

Another shit take.

 

[serghei]

Just own up your shit take (United&Spurs being better) and let us escape from this hell hole timeloop discussion you have with Jammy going on. Or we will burn in purgatory forever.

I said that in the past. I obviously don't think that anymore after what happened in the last half a year or more.

Don't see how that is relevant atm.