José Mourinho

[StarLord]

I suppose his title winning year with Real can be seen as very impressive.

You mean the one in which they received something like 15 penaldos?

What was impressive, was Simeone's resurrection of Atletico. Jose was an expensive failure.

 

[DrPepper]

12, while Barca received 10. Not a problem, dalitis.

Yeah it was impressive, considering he had to compete against the best football team in history, coached by probably the best and most innovative manager of his generation. Add to that setting a points and goals record. Unlike Ancelotti who can't even better Tata.

 

[Richard.H]

Jose actually did quite well in that 11-12 season. Wasn't that the season where they lost out to Bayern in penalties also?

 

[KyletheMuslim]

Jose actually did quite well in that 11-12 season. Wasn't that the season where they lost out to Bayern in penalties also?

The referees helped madrid to win la liga that season, and I'm not just talking about penalties. So many dubious decisions

 

[antonnn]

By the sounds of it, it's such a standard thing in Spain for refs to favour Madrid that you guys should just stop complaining about it, it's not going to do anything and all that happens is you lot get pissed off.

 

[KyletheMuslim]

By the sounds of it, it's such a standard thing in Spain for refs to favour Madrid that you guys should just stop complaining about it, it's not going to do anything and all that happens is you lot get pissed off.

The Ghost of Franco lives on.....we will stop complaining when the officials become impartial

 

[BenRobbins]

I hope he actually told Perez to fuck off in those terms. Gets hounded out then hes begging for him to come back. I hope Carlo leaves and they have to hire John Carver.

 

[antonnn]

Yeah I know how ridiculous, 2 years after what happened and he calls him to come back. GTFO. Shameless from Perez.

 

[Ini8]

12, while Barca received 10. Not a problem, dalitis.

Yeah it was impressive, considering he had to compete against the best football team in history, coached by probably the best and most innovative manager of his generation. Add to that setting a points and goals record. Unlike Ancelotti who can't even better Tata.

Tbf, we got almost half of those pens after La Liga was decided.

 

[StarLord]

12, while Barca received 10. Not a problem, dalitis.

Yeah it was impressive, considering he had to compete against the best football team in history, coached by probably the best and most innovative manager of his generation. Add to that setting a points and goals record. Unlike Ancelotti who can't even better Tata.

You were obviously not watching Spanish football in 11/12.

Just like another poster mentioned, Real Madrid's penaldos came in the first half of the season, while ours came only at the end when the gap was huge or when the title was already decided.

But Mou is at it again:


Messi has propelled the Catalan giants to three Champions League crowns and six Liga titles over the last decade, breaking numerous goalscoring records in the process.

However, Mourinho has intimated that the recent success may have not been achievable without the Argentina forward.

"In 10 years' time, without Lionel Messi, the map of European football is going to change," he told talkSPORT.

"What Barcelona have won in the last few years was with Frank Rijkaard, Pep Guardiola and Luis Enrique as coach, but it's always with Messi."

Last week, Barcelona economic vice-president Javier Faus said the club could be forced to sell Messi, Luis Suarez or Neymar if the likes of Chelsea or Paris Saint-Germain tempted them with better salaries.



Mourinho also tore into the Spanish top-flight, insisting Barca and Real Madrid would not dominate English football in the same way.

The former Los Blancos boss said that there were only "four or five" meaningful games every season.

"I was in Spain but I didn’t enjoy it," he added to talkSPORT.

"I didn’t enjoy it because I won a title with a record in Spain with 100 points and 121 goals, but we played only three or four matches all season.

"I lost a title with 92 points, but again we played only four or five matches in the season.

"You feel the pressure that you have to win every match because if you don’t you are not champions. You have to win and win. But it is a big, big gap between the giants and the others.

"In matches in other countries you can win games when you are resting. In Spain and in Italy I won lots of matches resting, where you think ‘what next’, where you think which European game is coming, where you can rest players.

"This season I rested some players against Bradford City and I lost. That is English football. You are winning 2-0 and if you concede a goal you know you are going to have hell for the last few minutes and you might draw 2-2 and lose two points.

"This is the reality of the Premier League. You have no time. It’s not just about the number of matches, it’s the intensity. And it’s not just physical intensity, you feel the intensity mentally.

"I think the difference between the Premier League and La Liga is huge. Would they [Barcelona or Real Madrid] win the Premier League? Maybe yes. Maybe not."

Wanna know the reality of the Premier League Mr. Jose, you sore loser:


1.Spain 99.427
2.England 80.391

 

[DrPepper]

You claim that Barcelona at the time were not the best team in the world or in football history, led by Barca's best manager ever. Really?

So? He can't really say that the league he plays in is shit, in fact nobody would do that. When he was in Spain he said that La Liga was the best league in the world. If he, at some point, manages in Portugal again their league will be the best for him.

 

[StarLord]

You claim that Barcelona at the time were not the best team in the world or in football history, led by Barca's best manager ever. Really?

So? He can't really say that the league he plays in is shit, in fact nobody would do that. When he was in Spain he said that La Liga was the best league in the world. If he, at some point, manages in Portugal again their league will be the best for him.

In 11/12 Barcelona were not at their best, far from it. We had trouble against AC Milan in the quarter-finals and then lost to an atrocious Chelsea in the semis. We also dropped lots of points vs teams like Osasuna etc...

Of course he is allowed to praise the league he participates in, but he goes to such extreme lengths to make himself look as good as possible that it becomes comical.

Winning one league in 3 attempts and failing in the CL each time is infinitely inferior to bringing home the Decima on your first attempt as Carlo managed to do. But Jose and his fans will never admit that brutal reality.

 

[serghei]

Winning one league in 3 attempts and failing in the CL each time is infinitely inferior to bringing home the Decima on your first attempt as Carlo managed to do. But Jose and his fans will never admit that brutal reality.

The CL depends a lot on luck. For example, Sergio Ramos made a mess out of that penalty against Bayern in 2012, but he scored from a corner in the last minute of the CL final. That's the hazard doing it's job. You can't seriously make a comparison between Mourinho and Ancelotti at Real based on a couple of lucky / unlucky moments. Mourinho won the league in 2012, and that is more difficult to pull off against a team like Barcelona, than winning a CL final by the thiniest of margins against an obviously tired Atletico.

 

[Barcaman]

They steamrolled Bayern.

 

[Morten]

They steamrolled Bayern.

So did Barca, Bayern is overrated.