José Mourinho

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kingleo1

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If Mou was such a great coach he would be able to achieve good results with good football against strong opponents.
His negative tactics are ok if you are dnipro but if you are Chelsea you should play better than bore the football world just for results.

Mourinho is a short term motivation trainer. He is Lucky that he gets extremely overrated by the British media, everything he does is labled as genius when its actually cowardly or mistake that just works itself out.

He is lucky that Chelsea fans have no honour or want to see great football. They are perfectly fine with anti football being their legacy and having a reputation as bus parkers as long as it get results. They even take pride in other people ripping their football.
Its like an old school serie A club.

But to me Chelsea and Mourinho are not good representatives of football, people wont fall in love with the game by them and I feel big clubs have responsability to play the beautiful game in a beautiful way. Or maybe that is just a romantic point of view.
Thats my main reason why I dont want to see Chelsea or Mourinho anywhere near a cl victory again.

why so much bitterness?

Chelsea actually played very good football for most of the season, the only reason why they had to play more negative for the last few months was because they have a small squad and no winter break, so of course their level would drop, from the style they played for the first 6 months of the season, they played a very high intensity style, pressed high and was always working hard to win the ball back as quickly as possible, Mou barely rotated his squad so of course they wouldnt be able to maintain that level.
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
why so much bitterness?

Chelsea actually played very good football for most of the season, the only reason why they had to play more negative for the last few months was because they have a small squad and no winter break, so of course their level would drop, from the style they played for the first 6 months of the season, they played a very high intensity style, pressed high and was always working hard to win the ball back as quickly as possible, Mou barely rotated his squad so of course they wouldnt be able to maintain that level.
Cause I strongly dislike Mourinho and Chelsea. Their whole philosophy and what they have done to football the last 10 years, they are really up there with Real for me.
Mourinho is the most overrated trainer out there for me, I just cringe whenever he makes his hypocritical comments and the British media praise him into heaven for it.
Chelsea only play good football against weak opponents, whenever they face stronger opposition its another bus boring everyone to death, bar 1/2 games at home against the likes of Arsenal or Liverpool its the same shit every time every year.
 

Sterlingfan2000

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Cause I strongly dislike Mourinho and Chelsea. Their whole philosophy and what they have done to football the last 10 years, they are really up there with Real for me.
Mourinho is the most overrated trainer out there for me, I just cringe whenever he makes his hypocritical comments and the British media praise him into heaven for it.
Chelsea only play good football against weak opponents, whenever they face stronger opposition its another bus boring everyone to death, bar 1/2 games at home against the likes of Arsenal or Liverpool its the same shit every time every year.

Mou is not overrated. Look at Luis Enrique failed at roma but now course of winning treble and Pep isnt doing something special in Bayern. Its easy for coaches if u have messi because he alone wins u game. Mou did it with Inter and Porto
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
Mou is not overrated. Look at Luis Enrique failed at roma but now course of winning treble and Pep isnt doing something special in Bayern. Its easy for coaches if u have messi because he alone wins u game. Mou did it with Inter and Porto
With Porto yes, Inter as well from a result point of view but the way how he did it was so ugly.
If that had been Mourinho instead of Di Matteo in 2012 nobody would taling about exteme luck it would be genius/special one does it again etc. thats why he is overrated to me, every thing he does is hails as something so amazing when he in reality plays a cowardly style based on results with troops he can motivate only for a few years.
His Ronaldo like Narcism and hypocritical comments/jokes in the media being hailed as something great for the sport is proof of that.
He has been extremely disrespectful about especially Barcelona/Arsenal/pep and Wenger. Yet he could never do what they did.
 

Morten

Senior Member
With Porto yes, Inter as well from a result point of view but the way how he did it was so ugly.
If that had been Mourinho instead of Di Matteo in 2012 nobody would taling about exteme luck it would be genius/special one does it again etc. thats why he is overrated to me, every thing he does is hails as something so amazing when he in reality plays a cowardly style based on results with troops he can motivate only for a few years.
His Ronaldo like Narcism and hypocritical comments/jokes in the media being hailed as something great for the sport is proof of that.
He has been extremely disrespectful about especially Barcelona/Arsenal/pep and Wenger. Yet he could never do what they did.

Other than the british, no one would think that. Of course, he had luck with both Porto and Inter when he won it, but Chelsea 2012 was a once in a lifetime kind of luck.
 

raki

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Luck is a part of the game. Barça in 2009 had luck with the Iniesta goal.
He made Porto and Inter CL champions. Huge achievements. His biggest. Difficult to top that.
He´s on a descending point in my opinion.
 
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kingleo1

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With Porto yes, Inter as well from a result point of view but the way how he did it was so ugly.
If that had been Mourinho instead of Di Matteo in 2012 nobody would taling about exteme luck it would be genius/special one does it again etc. thats why he is overrated to me, every thing he does is hails as something so amazing when he in reality plays a cowardly style based on results with troops he can motivate only for a few years.
His Ronaldo like Narcism and hypocritical comments/jokes in the media being hailed as something great for the sport is proof of that.
He has been extremely disrespectful about especially Barcelona/Arsenal/pep and Wenger. Yet he could never do what they did.

dont understand how you can say he plays a cowardly style, his teams adapt and play in a way that gives his team the best possible chance of winning.
 

6 Ballons for Messi

but what if he wins 7??
dont understand how you can say he plays a cowardly style, his teams adapt and play in a way that gives his team the best possible chance of winning.

No, he rly doesn't adapt at all.
He always parks the bus against strong teams and it's rly funny because at chelsea he has quality players that can play proper football against anyone.

My theory is that he suffered trauma from the manita.
Up until that point, mou's teams adapted and played proper football at times.
So, he came to real and thought "time to finally play my own proper style with this incredible team" and well, he got smacked 5-0 trying to play open football.
After that he became a coward, urging his players to be thugs, he played pepe in midfield lmao, sat back deep etc.

I'll say it again, chelsea's roster can play some nice, winning and also attractive football.
Mou is holding chelsea back playing like a coward against big teams.
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
No, he rly doesn't adapt at all.
He always parks the bus against strong teams and it's rly funny because at chelsea he has quality players that can play proper football against anyone.

My theory is that he suffered trauma from the manita.
Up until that point, mou's teams adapted and played proper football at times.
So, he came to real and thought "time to finally play my own proper style with this incredible team" and well, he got smacked 5-0 trying to play open football.
After that he became a coward, urging his players to be thugs, he played pepe in midfield lmao, sat back deep etc.

I'll say it again, chelsea's roster can play some nice, winning and also attractive football.
Mou is holding chelsea back playing like a coward against big teams.
But he already parked the ultimate bus playing Eto'o as lb a year before right?

The guy has Always been a coward in big games, more affraid to lose than wanting to display a dominant wi with good football.
He is evry calculating and long term focussed, keep everyone motivated, try to win all the small games, dont lose the big games as much as possible and you will achieve results.
Same with cups, that is why it was so funny to watch it backfire this season in the cl.

Look at the difference how Real played a classico with Ancelotti (not even mentioning how it went from thug whining mentality to classy relax). No scared tactics with Pepe in midfield along with Khedira and Alonso to kick Messi down whenever he gets the ball.

Arsenal's invincibles played beautifull football, counters and possesion and became legendary, Pep's Barca is the best team in football history with world class football.
Who is going to remember Inter or even Chelsea for their cl wins other than with the words ultradefence/anti-football/extreme luck.

Mou's style is great for smaller clubs competing with very strong ones, like Atletico in that regard or what he did at Porto.
But when you have huge money available you need to boss it with nice play in the big games as well rather than play not to lose.
I bet if he plays FIFA he just passes the ball in the back over and over to get a 0-0 and his ultime favourite game is Germany vs Austria from the early 80's.
 
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Sterlingfan2000

Active member
I think hes right when he said that FIFA awards are manipulated yesterday and his votes were changed for marketing Reason. There are some controvisial decision over the last years which are not understandable

- Messi Ballon Dor Win 2010
- Ronaldo Ballon Dor 2013
- Messi best Player in World Cup 2014
- David Luiz and Thiago Silva in World XI
- Dani Alves and Iniesta after having horror Season still in World XI

Hopefully FBI cleans all the curruption inside the dam Fifa
 

barcanuck

New member
I think hes right when he said that FIFA awards are manipulated yesterday and his votes were changed for marketing Reason. There are some controvisial decision over the last years which are not understandable

- Messi Ballon Dor Win 2010
- Ronaldo Ballon Dor 2013
- Messi best Player in World Cup 2014
- David Luiz and Thiago Silva in World XI
- Dani Alves and Iniesta after having horror Season still in World XI

Hopefully FBI cleans all the curruption inside the dam Fifa

LOL these are the least of their concerns!
 

Caps

Member
Indeed Messi d'Or in 2010 is one of the most deserved in history. Yes, Xavi and The Don were great in a World cup winning side- which is simply testament yo how shockingly good \leo was that year that he won it.
 

Morten

Senior Member
But he already parked the ultimate bus playing Eto'o as lb a year before right?

The guy has Always been a coward in big games, more affraid to lose than wanting to display a dominant wi with good football.
He is evry calculating and long term focussed, keep everyone motivated, try to win all the small games, dont lose the big games as much as possible and you will achieve results.
Same with cups, that is why it was so funny to watch it backfire this season in the cl.

Look at the difference how Real played a classico with Ancelotti (not even mentioning how it went from thug whining mentality to classy relax). No scared tactics with Pepe in midfield along with Khedira and Alonso to kick Messi down whenever he gets the ball.

Arsenal's invincibles played beautifull football, counters and possesion and became legendary, Pep's Barca is the best team in football history with world class football.
Who is going to remember Inter or even Chelsea for their cl wins other than with the words ultradefence/anti-football/extreme luck.

Mou's style is great for smaller clubs competing with very strong ones, like Atletico in that regard or what he did at Porto.
But when you have huge money available you need to boss it with nice play in the big games as well rather than play not to lose.
I bet if he plays FIFA he just passes the ball in the back over and over to get a 0-0 and his ultime favourite game is Germany vs Austria from the early 80's.

Cant see why the invinsibles should be remember much more than Mourinhos previous Chelsea sides. Yeah, the invinsibles did go unbeaten over a season, however, Chelsea got the record for most point and least conceded. Unbeaten run is overrated. Chelsea 2004-2006 was a very good side, every bit as good as the invinsibles overall. Inter is much the same as his early Chelsea-side as well, though their success was shortlived.
 

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