Moved here from Neymar thread.
Then why did he lose the locker room?
Unless whatever has been reported so far are all lies.
Would you have kept him if it was possible/bring him back in the future if possible?
He didn't ever lose the entire locker room. He lost the cohesion with some players breaking out of the system and he stopped trusting them, and in my mind he did right by his own philosophy. Have you heard of a player who speaks downright ill of Mourinho for any sensible reason? I only really remember Materazzi crying over him leaving Inter and Essien/Carvalho follow him to Real as some of the most trusted companions.
Have you read exerpts from Jerzy Dudek's latest book? Some have already confirmed these things to be true, like Antonio Adan. For instance, from a chapter titled "Where is the rat?":
Following the 1:1 draw with Barcelona in April 2011 Mou came down to the locker room and said the score is not bad considering we played the entire 2nd half with 10 men after Albiol was sent off. He also surprisingly raised his voice:
" - I see that you have brilliant connections with the media. I know you have to work with them, but I never knew it's going that well. Thanks to them I know that you don't want groupings before games, that we do not practice set pieces properly, that we do not have the appropriate tactics sessions. Four hours before the game I turn the TV on and I see the fucking journalist going through our lineup!!!
- How could we surprise them with anything if one of you is a traitor!!! A traitor! One of you has leaked the lineup information before the game. They knew everything about us. So we train for an entire week, we want to surprise them, we want to change things up, we put Pepe in midfield to play against Messi and we talk about it.. we talk and we know how Pepe will mark him, when to let him go so that he's not the greatest threat when he takes the ball and so we do not panic. That's why Pepe was going to go in the midfield, yeah? Yeah. Everything was great. Why did it not work?...
- I always go at the frontline. I control everything that happens. Like a general I go into the war with you. We're going to attack them and somebody stabs me in the back. One of you stabs me in the back right before this kind of game?
- Where is the rat? Who is he? Who could it be? Maybe you (*points at Granero*). It could be somebody who is here the longest? *points at 3-4 other players*
- How can you destroy what we worked over tirelessly last week? You lied to me, but you also lied to your families and friends. I will fucking find out who gave the info to the journalist, but I don't know if I need that right now. I don't fucking want to talk to you..."
He smashed a plastic bottle on the wall, slammed the door and left."
It's never been the same since apparently, even though they did win the title the year after. Whether it's Mou being pissed off over the Iker/Carbonero situation or whether there were more reasons, some issues with Ramos and Cristiano in training.. He lost a couple of the main guys and the atmosphere has gone toxic. Some guys wanted to focus on football, others tried to do so, but some things were not right with them. That season when they lost the league in December, the backroom stories were the main topic for Marca/AS, not the football and not always for a good reason. Some players defended Mourinho, others who were not necessarily stars just sat there and shut up.
Mou just doesn't tolerate disloyalty and betrayal of his methods, especially since he ALWAYS takes the hit in the media for the team while being all normal and fatherlike on the training ground. Rarely anyone bothers to see that side of his character, because that's not what makes the headlines. Did his donations to the Cadete section make the headlines? Multiple charitable acts? Instead we get things like with one of the first press conference things with Preciado (when RM beat Gijon away in 10/11 and Preciado complained over some ref malarky)? People always talked about that instead of the fact that Madrid struggled to play a good game.
Would I have kept him? No. It was time to part ways. It couldn't have gone on successfully I don't think. It's much different to this year when Ancelotti definitely could stay and prove doubters wrong, especially since it wasn't a terrible season given the circumstances.
But yeah, I don't see why he can't come back. He keeps saying he's got a good relationship with Madrid and he still has things to prove in Spain. He'll probably wait till Messi starts to decline and/or the untouchables in the Madrid dressing room leave.
Would I welcome him back? Yeah, depending if the team needs him. I'm not fond of some of his "us vs the world" mentality and attention whore antics (fingers in eyes), but it doesn't bother me as a viewer. I much prefer to pay attention to the actual results and his bond with the team as opposed to the internet outrage and conversation about his lack of class and all that bullshit.
Mou isn't the perfect human being, nobody is, even his fans don't paint him as so perfect, we've come to disagree with some things he says or the football he likes to promote, but he's nowhere near as bad as some like to make him sound.
Yeah right. It's the media and opposition fans who make a bad image of Mourinho. His words and antics are just fine.
