Juan Manuel Mata

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Maybe as AM, but we don't use AMs. Mata is not good as winger or CM, he's too limited in this regard, he's pure 10. He'd flop big time in LE system. I wouldn't want him for free.

Fully agree, but this is more of a lack of fit in the system than overall quality.
 

EdmondDantes

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Del Bosque, Mourinho and now Van Gaal do not seem to be fond of him. He's a great lad but he hasn't been setting the world alight in the last two years.
 

Ursegor

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Yes, if we forget his last year at Valencia and two at Chelsea when he was clearly a Top 3 AM in the world:lucho:

Top 3 AMs in the world don't fail to make their national team squads regularly and get chased out of town by Mourinho. He racked up some assist stats in the Europa League while Chelsea were 5th or 6th best team in England under Di Matteo / Benitez. Well done to him.

Underwhelming player.
 

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Top 3 AMs in the world don't fail to make their national team squads regularly and get chased out of town by Mourinho. He racked up some assist stats in the Europa League while Chelsea were 5th or 6th best team in England under Di Matteo / Benitez. Well done to him.

Underwhelming player.

Yes, because every team uses the same system with the same players :lucho: because tiki-taka is conducive to a direct player like Mata as we all see at FCB :lucho:

"some assists" in the Europa League :lol: can you please do some research first before spouting off? It's okay not to be fond of him, but he was great for three years. Definitely has the talent. You can't be great for one year let alone three if you're a scrub.

No one uses a pure AM anymore which makes players like Mata, Ozil not in high demand.

Most valid point in the thread so far
 

Ursegor

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No one uses a pure AM anymore which makes players like Mata, Ozil not in high demand.

The problem with Mata is not that he is an AM. The problem with Mata is that he doesn't have the technique to play between the lines. Silva and Özil are doing just fine. In Özil's case it's lazyness and attitude problems that are holding him back, not a quality problem. Still delivered better performances since his injury return than Mata did in his entire career.

Mata is a great freekick taker. I give him that.
 

Ursegor

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Yes, because every team uses the same system with the same players :lucho: because tiki-taka is conducive to a direct player like Mata as we all see at FCB :lucho:

"some assists" in the Europa League :lol: can you please do some research first before spouting off? It's okay not to be fond of him, but he was great for three years. Definitely has the talent. You can't be great for one year let alone three if you're a scrub.

Today I learned: Mourinho fecked off Mata because he wasn't compatible to his tiki-taka plans.
 

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Today I learned: Mourinho fecked off Mata because he wasn't compatible to his tiki-taka plans.

No you're still wrong. Every team in the history of football uses the same system with the same players :lucho:

That's why when one is rendered surplus to requirements, like Rivaldo to FCB, he is ultimately shit and has nothing to do with any other factors at all. Just a shit player :lucho:
 

Ursegor

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No you're still wrong. Every team in the history of football uses the same system with the same players :lucho:

That's why when one is rendered surplus to requirements, like Rivaldo to FCB, he is ultimately shit and has nothing to do with any other factors at all. Just a shit player :lucho:

What is this?
 

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