Koeman's Succesor? Media Speaks!

Messi983

Senior Member
That means nothing. It's not like that's a 24/7 job. :D



Gallardo has zero experience outside of South America. There is a good chance he would be another disaster. I also can't understand why are people so crazy about Ten Hag? He is managing a team in a league that's far from competitive. Except for 2018/19 season his track record is unimpressive.

IMHO none of those 2 should have an advantage over Xavi.

But what can we do IF Xavi doesn't want to come/Laporta doesn't want him. Or as said in previous post they probably both have reasons to think it's not the right time for Xavi's return.

Gallardo is proven in a bigger club/better league than Xavi. Sure, he could flop but so could Xavi. The only advantage Xavi has over him is his knowledge of the club. But as we can see with Koeman, being a legendary player doesn't mean you'll also succeed at the club as a coach. I think Xavi will be a better coach than Koeman but there is no guarantee he'll become what people expect from him. At least not in our current situation which is one of the reasons why he's staying away for now imo.

Personally I'm not extremely high on Ten Hag. I have my doubts about him but should still be an improvement over Koeman. It's more his nationality and usual Ajax-Barca connections that makes him a good candidate over what he's done so far in his coaching career. At the same, with what credentials were Koeman or Rijkaard hired? Frank even got Sparta Rotterdam relegated and was a year without a club before he got here. So from that POV even if you consider Ten Hag's track record unimpressive he's still done better than Rijkaard.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
I honestly think "top" coaches are overrated in the sense that they are primarily good fits for their clubs. We just need to find a good match, I don't care where he coached before.
 

Joan

Well-known member
I see Valverde has grown on you recently lol if koeman survives a whole season you might end up joining the cult lol

We won't take him. Remember he joined the Koelt at some point. We need loyal men worth of defending the nose.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
We won't take him. Remember he joined the Koelt at some point. We need loyal men worth of defending the nose.

It's a new day, doesn't matter what people have said and done in the past as long as they keep an open mind to the reality of the truth
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
In the end, this clown is still our manager only because we can't find anyone decent to replace him. All top managers except Conte are currently unavailable and Conte probably wouldn't be a good long term solution. The most realistic solution is that Koeman will stay until ATM game (2nd of October). There is an international break after that game and that's a perfect time to replace him.
 
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FinBarcelonafan

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The image of Bar?a centering balls at Piqu?, Araujo and Luuk de Jong as the only alternative to overcome a 0-1 against Granada at the Camp Nou is now part of the club's history! [sport]

Didn't we lose last time vs Granada 1-2?? This was better result and the right approach. We don't have Messi solving parked busses anymore. We don't have the talent to crack a defense.
 

serghei

Senior Member
He will not play tiki taka or something like that. A direct game like Rijkaard and Lucho and focus more on defense.

Not sure if everybody was happy about him a year ago or befofe Chelsea's UCL glory.

He will not play tiki-taka like Xavi or Pep would, but his possession/positional game is top notch. He is a confessed fan of Pep Barca after all. City - Chelsea games are 55-45% possession duels when in balance, with both teams trying to orchestrate well-planned and detailed attacks. Not 70-30 or something like that.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
I honestly think "top" coaches are overrated in the sense that they are primarily good fits for their clubs. We just need to find a good match, I don't care where he coached before.

most managers are overrated. they mostly play the same way anyway. aside from the tinkering guardiola does once in a while to keep himself busy and entertained, there is no major change in tactics for the last 30 years.

sometimes having the right context and personnel is more important than the manager's football knowledge.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Top managers are not overrated and are more influential than ever in an inflated market where you can spend 200m and end up with players who have various problems, childish mood swings, and are hard to fit in a team properly.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Top managers are not overrated and are more influential than ever in an inflated market where you can spend 200m and end up with players who have various problems, childish mood swings, and are hard to fit in a team properly.

True and good point. Look at even Barca from the past couple years. Roster almost worth a billion yet no game plan or system and most of the players look lost. So dysfunctional system, that none of the players play up to their potential. Good coach could fix that, so fixing this is worth couple hundred million easily.

How to waste a billion basically.. Hire shit coach.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
Top managers are not overrated and are more influential than ever in an inflated market where you can spend 200m and end up with players who have various problems, childish mood swings, and are hard to fit in a team properly.


Ok but let's go back to recent history.

Sampaoli was the next pep and should have coached Barca after Enrique.

Setien was Mr tiki taka himself and can only promise beautiful football.


Kovac was the next Jupp etc

Managers overated just as much as players lol
 

serghei

Senior Member
True and good point. Look at even Barca from the past couple years. Roster almost worth a billion yet no game plan or system and most of the players look lost. So dysfunctional system, that none of the players play up to their potential. Good coach could fix that, so fixing this is worth couple hundred million easily.

How to waste a billion basically.. Hire shit coach.

The thing is a top coach makes the bad deals seem less horrible due to getting the most out of players: the same way Klopp got the most out of Coutinho. Werner is probably not a great transfer, but Tuchel made it work reasonably well until they could upgrade, and even won a CL with Werner playing his part.

That's the difference.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Ok but let's go back to recent history.

Sampaoli was the next pep and should have coached Barca after Enrique.

Setien was Mr tiki taka himself and can only promise beautiful football.


Kovac was the next Jupp etc

Managers overated just as much as players lol

Like serghei said, these coaches were bad fit for the team. Not every time it clicks. Then you have to sack the coach, but that's still cheaper than changing all the players.
 

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