Kylian Mbappé

Birdy

Senior Member
He can like them all he wants, at the end of the day he and his family want to get paid and wants a platform for their own brand.
Liverpool superstars are actually underpaid, which will never happen with Mpabbe. Their core is old now (other than their FB) and they have shown nothing to suggest they can rebuild.

I would put Liverpool as 7th chance to get him, after the likes of PSG,Chelsea,Manu,City,Barca & RM
Again, even the realistic Liverpool fans think such link is laughable and garbage.

No way...
Apart from the financial side, where many solutions are available to boost his wage (like Nike, image rights, etc),
on the sporting side Liverpool are not in decline as people mistakenly think.
They were saying the same thing about City the whole last season until November, and then they were like 'oops, we were wrong'.
Liverpool next season will be strong as hell and will fight against with City for the league title till the end, and CL.

They will be a big lure as long as Klopp is there.
 

vuji_31

Senior Member
Agree with khaled.

Liverpool will never be able to attract players as Barca, Real,and now PSG.
They hit the sky with this team and now they are going down really fast.

I will put Man City as first option. If we got money we are second. If not then Real M.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
They are in financial trouble with ownership that is even now struggling to keep their own players happy, and a coach who won't last long after 2022 (age and his own history suggest Klopp will sooner or later will fail to keep his team same level).
Also FSG is a group with "pay what you have" type of financial philosophy, they won't and will never be able to compete with likes of Chelsea/City/Manu now.


He can like them all he wants, at the end of the day he and his family want to get paid and wants a platform for their own brand.
Liverpool superstars are actually underpaid, which will never happen with Mpabbe. Their core is old now (other than their FB) and they have shown nothing to suggest they can rebuild.

I would put Liverpool as 7th chance to get him, after the likes of PSG,Chelsea,Manu,City,Barca & RM
Again, even the realistic Liverpool fans think such link is laughable and garbage.

Khaled, what financial trouble are you talking about, with regard to FSG?
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
No way...
Apart from the financial side, where many solutions are available to boost his wage (like Nike, image rights, etc),
on the sporting side Liverpool are not in decline as people mistakenly think.
They were saying the same thing about City the whole last season until November, and then they were like 'oops, we were wrong'.
Liverpool next season will be strong as hell and will fight against with City for the league title till the end, and CL.

They will be a big lure as long as Klopp is there.

Color me surprised you're stanning for Liverpool and City while proclaiming doom and gloom for Barca at every turn.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Agree with khaled.

Liverpool will never be able to attract players as Barca, Real,and now PSG.
They hit the sky with this team and now they are going down really fast.

I will put Man City as first option. If we got money we are second. If not then Real M.

Sure FSG doesn't throw money around like us, Madrid or City does, but they are in the business of making money and if they spot an opportunity to further grow and build up their brands like Liverpool's they will make the necessary investment to do so.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Actually, CR doesnt quite fit that category, he wasnt really dominating opponents consistently as a teenager, unlike the others in question.
Certainly viewed as a big talent, there is a reason United got him right away, but like i said, it took a little while to get him going, so to speak.

Not as teenager, but actually at same age of Mpabbe now he was more dominant than those two
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
No way...
Apart from the financial side, where many solutions are available to boost his wage (like Nike, image rights, etc),
on the sporting side Liverpool are not in decline as people mistakenly think.
They were saying the same thing about City the whole last season until November, and then they were like 'oops, we were wrong'.
Liverpool next season will be strong as hell and will fight against with City for the league title till the end, and CL.

They will be a big lure as long as Klopp is there.

Take a look at Liverpool player's age.
In 2022,which you claim they have a chance on him that year, only TAA (24) and Robertson will be younger than 29.
Klopp has history of failing to continue on his own level for so long at his previous 2 coaching jobs, and he will be 55 of age in 2022, an age that the likes of Mourinho and Ancelotti showed significance coaching ability decline.
Why someone like Mpabbe will go to an aging decline squad with a coach who likely won't be there for so long?
Going to a club because of coach isn't the smartest thing either, because young players always outlast the coaches.

And Liverpool is different club than City, City has unmatched resources, Liverpool struggled to even attract a half decent CB in January.
This comparison isn't even half valid.

Khaled, what financial trouble are you talking about, with regard to FSG?

They are, Klopp actually asked for transfers in January, and only when loses started they brought him some players on loan.
they have been low balling Salah for his renewal, and the later has started to use the media to pressure them.
It is said that the club isn't ready to commit financially to their core now.
They aren't going bankrupt or anything, but they aren't going in the market to compete with big deals, unless they can sell for huge profit some of their own.
 

Joan

Well-known member
Why would Haaland go to a midtable PL team? He could go to Leeds, if it came to that. At least that's the club that made his father famous. :coffee:
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
They are, Klopp actually asked for transfers in January, and only when loses started they brought him some players on loan.
they have been low balling Salah for his renewal, and the later has started to use the media to pressure them.
It is said that the club isn't ready to commit financially to their core now.
They aren't going bankrupt or anything, but they aren't going in the market to compete with big deals, unless they can sell for huge profit some of their own.

To me these are just anecdotal evidence of Liverpool's supposed "struggle" or financial problem some Liverpool fans love complaining about (certainly not the reason to lose to friggin' Fulham etc. at home). Nobody was spending much this past window, whether on transfers or player renewals in this current climate driven by COVID, with clubs incurring huge losses. I don't think Liverpool is one of the favorites to sign Mbappe, but they have the money to do it if necessary.

Also, I don't buy the coaching ability decline in their 50's thingy. Koeman just turned 58 and I'd argue he is has done better with us than his previous tenures with other clubs and the NT, for example. It might be true that Klopp might have lost some of his marbles and the initial the awe factor, however I don't think Liverpool is going to go down like some predicted just yet. We will see how next season goes.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
They are, Klopp actually asked for transfers in January, and only when loses started they brought him some players on loan.
they have been low balling Salah for his renewal, and the later has started to use the media to pressure them.
It is said that the club isn't ready to commit financially to their core now.
They aren't going bankrupt or anything, but they aren't going in the market to compete with big deals, unless they can sell for huge profit some of their own.

I think you are wrong about that for the following reasons, but only future will tell...

1) About Klopp:
This year dip in form for Liverpool is expected after the injuries and after the slight transformation that Klopp wanted in the style of play, but that is not indicative of the decline people would want to read in that.
A cycle is 2-3 years only if approach is not renewed at all. Klopp is trying to renew his approach, which was already renewed circa 2018 (sth that was not properly evaluated by many)
Used City's example between 2019 and last November to indicate that: Pep was tinkering with a new approach and new role to players in order to stay on top, and not sink.
People mistakenly thought it was a sign of City's end of the 2-3 year cycle.
What we see after November tells us that that interpretation was wrong.

2) About squad:
Defenders and GKs can be WC until at least 32-33 yrs old.
Salah, Mane, Firmino can still be WC until 2024 when Klopp contract expires.
Apart form Winaldum (who is going to leave in the summer) and Henderson, I don't see their major cogs in the wheel declining that much to prevent them from staying on top.

I think the sporting directors know full well that Klopp can have a competitive squad at his disposal until he heads out in 2024

3) About money:
Yes, they were hit hard by Covid, and - unless you are City or PSG with unlimited resources - you have to be careful in the market.
It is also true that they are not splashing money for no reason. Their model is different from City's.

But, they paid a lot to get VVD and Alisson, and broke transfer records for them because they thought they are the right units to make them reach the next level.
I am 100% sure that if they have the chance to sign Mbape, who is a player for the next 8 years to say the least, they will do it again, and they will give him more money than what they give now.
See what Luftstalag said above about them making the moves to get cash at hand that would allow them to make the crucial moves.

But again, time will tell...
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Liverpool doesn't have the money to pay Mbappe 35-40M a year, as he wants. Plus a hefty sign on bonus.

Sure they can pay 80M for a player that they deem is worth it. But they won't pay huge salaries. They are not oil club and don't have the revenue to compete at that level.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Liverpool doesn't have the money to pay Mbappe 35-40M a year, as he wants. Plus a hefty sign on bonus.

Sure they can pay 80M for a player that they deem is worth it. But they won't pay huge salaries. They are not oil club and don't have the revenue to compete at that level.

They should sell firmino
 

Joan

Well-known member
Sell your starting stiker (who would buy him?) and replace him with a completely different player who you try to turn into a striker? Brilliant plan ;)
 

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