Kylian Mbappé

[Jair Ventura]

Is this even a Convo. France produces more talent through their former colonies. Just gives them a greater physical profile to train towards the nations 1 sport.

I mean yeah, Spain could in theory have some Filipinos. But they would just be 5ft tall and want to be basketball players.

A fact some of you should start considering when you're analyzing Ligue 1. The amount of talent that flows through France via Africa is insane. Which explains why mid, bottom, and even Ligue 2 teams are consistently developing top class talents. Huge turnover of course given financial disadvantages, but the depth of their talent pool and the consistency of their development programs ensures it's not a problem.

 

[Sailor Mars]

This. Without migrants, France would have Giroud, Lloris, Pavard and Griezmann.

But Spain was also a colonial empire with many territories in the Americas.

 

[Gnidrologist]

But their premium and most historical stars even in recent years were all spaniards. Senna in 2008 Euros rare exception. Now Fati may be.

 

[Temptation]

Those players came through the French system and French leagues. So credit to France. Cameroon didn't develop Mbappe. France did.

Stop coping with migration excuse just because Spain has no network.

 

[Gnidrologist]

No doubt about that, but most of their talents are duds. Mostly mediocre players no better or worse than spaniard imports. There's no dynasty of great french-african players currently albeit current spanish crop is not at their best either. Guys like Zidane, Henry, Viera were their golden generation just like Xavi, Iniesta, Villa et al.

 

[Barcilliant]

Are they really french players tho ?

Racist. Clearly.

 

[Barcilliant]

Without players of color France would be a second tier footballing nation.

 

[Temptation]

Without players of color France would be a second tier footballing nation.

Without Bollox, you'd be a woman.....

 

[CatalinR10]

Without players of color France would be a second tier footballing nation.

It would also be a safer country

 

[Gnidrologist]

Without players of color France would be a second tier footballing nation.

Or maybe other way around. We don't know how many talented whiteys have been rejected, because they are not physical enough. Remember that likes of Guardiola himself was seen skeptically upon because of his lack in athleticism. Only Cruiff knew he was real deal. Later there was skepticism on whether Xavi and Iniesta could play together in the midfield, for that period in time, modern football. Comes former weakling Guardiola and proves they can. Proves that high IQ > physicality, although later, of course, isn't bad in addition.

 

[Temptation]

It would also be a safer country

Any bad experiences in Paris??

 

[Temptation]

Or maybe other way around. We don't know how many talented whiteys have been rejected, because they are not physical enough. Remember that likes of Guardiola himself was seen skeptically upon because of his lack in athleticism. Only Cruiff knew he was real deal. Later there was skepticism on whether Xavi and Iniesta could play together in the, for that period in time, modern football. Comes former weakling Guardiola and proves they can. Proves that high IQ > physicality, although later, of course, isn't bad in addition.

Balkan, Germanic and Nordic players tend to be physical beasts as well.

Stereotypically it's the Iberian dimunitive players you're talking about....

Slavic players are a mixture and tougher to generalize....

 

[Jair Ventura]

No doubt about that, but most of their talents are duds. Mostly mediocre players no better or worse than spaniard imports. There's no dynasty of great french-african players currently albeit current spanish crop is not at their best either. Guys like Zidane, Henry, Viera were their golden generation just like Xavi, Iniesta, Villa et al.

Mbappe, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Nkunku, Wesley Fofana, Kephren Thuram, Moussa Diaby, Upamecano, Boubacar Kamara, Jules Kounde, Ibrahima Konate,
William Saliba, Illan Meslier: All 23 or under, and I could have gone on.

On the other hand, I can?t think of a single relevant u23 Spanish talent off the top of my head.

 

[Jair Ventura]

It would also be a safer country

For sure, because Europeans aren?t known to be violent. A few million people have died as a result of their wars and colonial history of course, but that?s only a minor inconvenience.

 

[CatalinR10]

For sure, because Europeans aren?t known to be violent. A few million people have died as a result of their wars and colonial history of course, but that?s only a minor inconvenience.

Obviously , because wars only happened on European land.