Lautaro Martinez

mc_lovin

Senior Member
You just shift the problem from one flank to the other by overburden certain players (or weakening the center). We wont have a balanced attack with Messi. Period.
 
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M3ls

Well-known member
We had a balance with Leo when he played in the position of the false nine. The scheme I proposed is almost identical to the one that we used in the second half of the 2010?2011 season. Villa attacked the box from the left flank, moving closer to the center and Pedro provided the width on the right flank. Messi attacked from 14 to 15 zones.

How did I loosen the center of the field? I did not understand you, explain in more detail.
 

Sailor Mars

Well-known member
Maybe that's where the Semedo for Cancelo rumors come from. Cancelo is almost like a winger an can provide offense from the right flank.

I like Semedo but he is just too timid to be an offensive threat at the top level.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
Jesus will take the position of the CF after Leo ends his career. Then we will enter the market to buy a left inverted winger.


With Leo:



After Leo:

 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
We had a balance with Leo when he played in the position of the false nine. The scheme I proposed is almost identical to the one that we used in the second half of the 2010?2011 season. Villa attacked the box from the left flank, moving closer to the center and Pedro provided the width on the right flank. Messi attacked from 14 to 15 zones.

How did I loosen the center of the field? I did not understand you, explain in more detail.


Messi is not his 10/11 self anymore, who had much more of a presence in the center.

With your suggested setup we create a weaker center and a weaker left wing (by not playing a real winger there). If you prefer that or a glaring hole on the right is preference I suppose, but it adds up to the same problem.


But I personally dont think Messi is that big of a problem, we just need two other forwards carrying their weight - a luxury we didnt have post Neymar.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
Because he was a false nine. The current Messi is inferior in speed and dexterity to Messi from the 2010-2011 season, so there is no point in putting him on the right flank. Even if you put it there, Leo will still shift to the center.


No, on the left flank the left fulback will maintain the width of the attack, and Jesus will move closer to the box.


You are confusing something. Now we have neither the right natural winger, nor the hybrid CF and left winger.

Dembele is injured, and indeed he is completely unsuitable for the role of the right natural winger. He is an inverted winger who likes to shift to the center. And he is left-handed. You can not fit on the same field Messi and Dembele.

Griezmann also duplicates the functions of Messi. Antoine is not an inverted winger, not a CF and not a natural winger. He also loves to play in zone 14, and this space belongs to Leo Messi.

Today's Suarez is too heavy and clumsy. He lacks speed, dexterity, and dribbling.

Therefore, I do not understand what you are talking about.

And I ask again: How did I weaken the center of the field ???
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Really not that hard of a concept to grasp:

Jesus - Messi - Ferran. You dont see the problem? You have Jesus who is supposed to be the left winger and penalty box presence at the same time. Messi plays like he always does (#10/RW hybrid) - he cant jump back to being peak false9 Messi. You basically created two minor weaknesses on the left and in the center instead of one bigger weakness on the right with LW - Suarez - Messi for example.

We could play Lautaro - Messi - Griezmann as well, with that lineup we would have two weaker wings (compared to real wingers), but a decent penalty box presence. The bottom line is that you cant have a classic LW - CF - RW setup with Messi. Some positions will always be compromised. If that is a 50/50 split or a 100% hole on either position is preference (overly simplified).
 

HanDW

Active member
Why we would even pay 40 million for ferran when we already have Trincao who in less than half the minutes has generated equal or better numbers than him ?.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
When your left fullback plays widely on your left, you cannot use the left winger in a wide position. On the final third of the opponent’s field, your winger should move closer to the box, otherwise the winger and the left fullback will duplicate functions.

That is why Pep prefers to use the left fake fullback when Leroy Sane plays on the left in the attack.

I'm talking about the fact that we need a player who will be effective both outside the box and inside it.

 

M3ls

Well-known member
In this picture we see that Villa is shifting closer to the center giving the left flank to the left fullback.

There were episodes when he played widely, and the left fullback took a more defensive position.

That’s what I’m talking about. We need a player who, depending on the game situation, will be useful both on the flank and in the vicinity - inside the box.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
We already had a scheme with left winger Suarez and Messi.

This is Barcelona Enrique. And we all remember that she was out of balance.
 

LABarcaFan

New member
Well I am just questioning why we are so for Lautaro and zero interest in Haaland?

For that 100 mil price I think Haalanda might be better option.
But he does not have mythical Barcelona DNA.

Because the local Barcelona fans as Hispanics prefer Lautaro, who is also Hispanic. There is no other explanation to me, since Haaland or Werner are a lot better than him, younger than him and will probably cost a lot less than him. But, Hispanics always prefer Hispanics. That is from day one of this club.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
Because the local Barcelona fans as Hispanics prefer Lautaro, who is also Hispanic. There is no other explanation to me, since Haaland or Werner are a lot better than him, younger than him and will probably cost a lot less than him. But, Hispanics always prefer Hispanics. That is from day one of this club.

Lmfao. Americans and their Apple pies, Spaniards aren't Hispanics they're Europeans. You are confusing Mexico with Barcelona
 

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