Lautaro Martinez

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Mike the Knife
Compare apples to apples. Kun came to Europe at 18 and was effectively a regular in his 2nd season at Atletico partnering with Forlan. Lautaro came to Europe at 21 and had first Icardi where he basically serviced him and then Lukaku where the chemistry was much better. Their paths are very different but the profile of the strengths are quite similar

What I remember about early Kun was an occasionally lazy but talented player, I see a real bull in Lautaro and you need that sort of intensity in your CF
 

MTL_Barca

Well-known member
I think Lautaro could fit in well, only the transfer fee is the big problem for me here. It seems like these days everyone younger than 23 playing decent for half a season is immediately put at 100+, add a release clause of that caliber into the mix and it somehow becomes accepted that it's a good price.

For maybe let's say 70-80M, so the price range of Frenkie, it could be worth a shot but 111M? That's very risky, especially considering how the last three super expensive transfers have worked out for Barca. If the club wants to recover financially paying maximum price for every signing while not even being able to sell the previous failed star signings isn't a sustainable business plan.
 
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M3ls

Well-known member
Look for low-cost young players with good skills.

City bought Jesus, Leroy for 40 - 45 million.

They got better under the guidance of a good coach.

We have a good coach. Now we need such players.

Why do we constantly buy players for 100 + million?
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
Look for low-cost young players with good skills.

City bought Jesus, Leroy for 40 - 45 million.

They got better under the guidance of a good coach.

We have a good coach. Now we need such players.

Why do we constantly buy players for 100 + million?

Sane at the time was a big risk though, they paid 50M for him after having 1 great season with Schalke. It'd be the equivalent of buying Sancho last summer for 100M.
 

Moe

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You go girl, but dont forget that cl gs was over in december and that this slow bloke scored more then our two forwards together. Let that sink in.

And yeah, im against 100+m. Is he good? He is. Would it be ok to have him? Indeed. Is he a upgrade in our attack? Fucking braithwaite is an upgrade. Should we pay 100+m? No.

Clearer?

Do you always go through this shallow logic? Because you seem to repeat it in each of your posts and it's only making you look gullible. If it's not a proven striker, like Suarez was back in 2014, then theres no reason to spend big on them. And before you go through that dumb logic again, Lautaro WILL be expensive and Barca are prepared to pay big for him only to play him out of position.

And the only reason Braithwaite is a hit here is because he adds something we don't have; pace. Something Lautaro lacks at 22.

Do I want Lautaro for cheap? of course I do. Will he be cheap? Of course not. Then Is it worth overpaying for an unproven player and then throw him in a position he's not familiar with? No it's not.

Clearer?
 

Vilarrubi

New member
Do you always go through this shallow logic? Because you seem to repeat it in each of your posts and it's only making you look gullible. If it's not a proven striker, like Suarez was back in 2014, then theres no reason to spend big on them. And before you go through that dumb logic again, Lautaro WILL be expensive and Barca are prepared to pay big for him only to play him out of position.

And the only reason Braithwaite is a hit here is because he adds something we don't have; pace. Something Lautaro lacks at 22.

Do I want Lautaro for cheap? of course I do. Will he be cheap? Of course not. Then Is it worth overpaying for an unproven player and then throw him in a position he's not familiar with? No it's not.

Clearer?

Agree, this transfer policy of.. pay 100m+ on a player and hope it works, is fucking stupid. Should have learnt our lesson by now.
 

vuji_31

Senior Member
Good post Moe.

I am trying to say that all time.

This guy will be massive flop. Does not have anything world class or potential world class in future. Slower then our 4th centre back.

Hope so Inter will want 111 mil and we will not pay for that.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
Do you always go through this shallow logic? Because you seem to repeat it in each of your posts and it's only making you look gullible. If it's not a proven striker, like Suarez was back in 2014, then theres no reason to spend big on them. And before you go through that dumb logic again, Lautaro WILL be expensive and Barca are prepared to pay big for him only to play him out of position.

And the only reason Braithwaite is a hit here is because he adds something we don't have; pace. Something Lautaro lacks at 22.

Do I want Lautaro for cheap? of course I do. Will he be cheap? Of course not. Then Is it worth overpaying for an unproven player and then throw him in a position he's not familiar with? No it's not.

Clearer?

You are repeating yourself like a broken record over and over again, like you dont want to see that majority of forum have more or less the same opinion on lautaro. I'll repeat. Should we go for lautaro? Yes. Should we pay 100+m? No. Do we have players to trade for him? Yes we have. Why its hard to understand that under this new manager we might actually get rid of some superstars who play out of their positions and bring in someone who could actually fade out suarez and integrate in first 11.

Frenkie 22, arthur 23, lautaro 22, lenglet 24, todibo 20, semedo 26, firpo 23, dembele 22, fati 17 years old

Im sorry chap for trying to be optimistic and hyped on our potential young core.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Do you actually believe a manager has any say in who we'll buy and who will play? Messi and his amigos run the club not whoever our manager is, lol.

Until Suarez is here he'll be a starter (the same as Pique, Busi, Alba) so spending 100m on his "replacement" just to play him out of his best position is a waste of money. Signing Lautaro only makes sense if Suarez is leaving at the end of this season which won't happen.


About trading players for Lautaro. Swap deals are rarely happening for many reasons. Also, total value of the transfer would still be more than 100m if we'd include a player like Vidal so it's not like we would actually save some money. He's probably the most likely since Conte likes him and we also want to sell but again, what is his fair market price? What if Inter thinks Vidal is worth 10m while Barca thinks he's worth twice as much and we would get offer(s) from other club(s) in that range but instead decide to include him to lower Lautaro's asking price for only 12-13m (negotiation power is on Inter's side here because we want their player more than they want our). We're losing money here like it usually happens in swap deals. It already happened to us once in that famous Ibra-Eto'o transfer when we were desperate to get rid of Eto'o so much we included him in a swap when we could probably get more for him on the open market. Heck, that deal alone (alongside with them pulling off from Rafinha's deal) should be enough to never negotiate with them again. :lol: But we never learn our lessons.

If we want to sell Vidal for good money and plan to bring a good replacement (I doubt it though since our entire focus seems to be on attacking players again and we'll probably just bring a cheap midfielder and/or defender if anyone at all) for him then fine. But if we'll just use Arturo as a money exchange and get almost nothing in return then I prefer to keep him. He's one of the rare players who still actually gives a f**** on the pitch in every game.


People assume that Inter must accept any offer that's around 111m which is not true. If Lautaro has a clause then they must accept it only IF we pay that sum at once (not in installments like we want) - like we did with AG last year - without including any players. If we won't do that then they can just set his price at 130m or even more if they want. But they certainly won't sell for "just" 80-90m (even that's too much imo) or so because they know we're desperate for another forward to save us :lol: and we've overpaid on most big money transfers so we'll do that again. Inter will only sell under their terms. They don't need to sell to us. They can sell to City who will probably look for Kun's longterm replacement and they are also totally ok with keeping Lautaro for another season by offering him a new contract with better wages and higher or no release clause (so even more power for them next summer). So it's basically a win-win situation for them. For us, not so much.

Another problem is that this clause is apparently only valid from July 1-15. Current season surely won't be finished by then so what will we do? Pay Lautaro's clause at that time when both clubs are probably still competing for titles? Or will his clause be valid for 14 days whenever next transfer window opens? Or maybe it won't be valid at all. We live in uncertain times not knowing what will happen but football market will surely be affected as well. I was against another 100m signing from the start and am even more so now with the club losing potentially more than 100m of revenues.
 
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vuji_31

Senior Member
We have Suarez,Griezmann and Braithwaite who can play number 9.
Bringing Lautaro while Saurez is still here is stupid.

If he plays next year more then 60 precent he will be here one more season.

This board and coach don't have guts to say. Okay, it is time to go.

No player wants to go from Barca, when players like Rakitic and Roberto earns 10 milions per season.
 

LABarcaFan

New member
Compare apples to apples. Kun came to Europe at 18 and was effectively a regular in his 2nd season at Atletico partnering with Forlan. Lautaro came to Europe at 21 and had first Icardi where he basically serviced him and then Lukaku where the chemistry was much better. Their paths are very different but the profile of the strengths are quite similar

What I remember about early Kun was an occasionally lazy but talented player, I see a real bull in Lautaro and you need that sort of intensity in your CF

Yes, we all hope Lautaro can be the striker we need, but... his price tag is too high and he is bid of a hot-headed guy with lots of off field problems. In another words, he is something similar to Neymar. Mucho loco. If we could get him for 50-60 m. then it is OK, but for 111 m. !!! There are lots of other center forwards for even less than his half price like Cyriel Dessers, Myron Boadu, Oussama Idrisi, Moussa Dembele, Victor Osimhen and more. I thing from financial standpoint we should consider one of them, instead of paying that much money for a player, who most likely will turn another Dembele, Coutinho or Griezmann.

I think Lautaro could fit in well, only the transfer fee is the big problem for me here. It seems like these days everyone younger than 23 playing decent for half a season is immediately put at 100+, add a release clause of that caliber into the mix and it somehow becomes accepted that it's a good price.

For maybe let's say 70-80M, so the price range of Frenkie, it could be worth a shot but 111M? That's very risky, especially considering how the last three super expensive transfers have worked out for Barca. If the club wants to recover financially paying maximum price for every signing while not even being able to sell the previous failed star signings isn't a sustainable business plan.

70-80 m. for Lautaro is still very high price. The transfer market is corrupted and serves the interests of very small group of agents like the biggest mafioso among all , Mino Raiola. But, all that will change, once the virus is over. Many things in our lives will change as well and I don't think there will be anymore unrealistic price tags for professional athletes.
 

LABarcaFan

New member
Look for low-cost young players with good skills.

City bought Jesus, Leroy for 40 - 45 million.

They got better under the guidance of a good coach.

We have a good coach. Now we need such players.

Why do we constantly buy players for 100 + million?

We have what? You call Setien a good coach?

Do you always go through this shallow logic? Because you seem to repeat it in each of your posts and it's only making you look gullible. If it's not a proven striker, like Suarez was back in 2014, then theres no reason to spend big on them. And before you go through that dumb logic again, Lautaro WILL be expensive and Barca are prepared to pay big for him only to play him out of position.

And the only reason Braithwaite is a hit here is because he adds something we don't have; pace. Something Lautaro lacks at 22.

Do I want Lautaro for cheap? of course I do. Will he be cheap? Of course not. Then Is it worth overpaying for an unproven player and then throw him in a position he's not familiar with? No it's not.

Clearer?

Very good post. Congrats bro.
You are absolutely right. We are going to three peat the same mistake we did with Coutinho and Griezmann.I doubt Suarez will sit on the bench, while Martinez starts at his position. What is going to happen is this. Setien will still play Suarez at 9 and will move Lautaro to the LW and if not sold, Griezmann at the RW. That will also put a talented youngster as Fr.Trincao on the bench. All that because of one over-paid player with enormous price tag.So yes, we don't need Lautaro Martinez for that price.
 

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