Instead of arguing about it since go nowhere.
Average who scored rating David Silva last season: 7.26
Arthur: 6.49
HUGE difference.
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Instead of arguing about it since go nowhere.
Average who scored rating David Silva last season: 7.26
Arthur: 6.49
HUGE difference.
serghei
Senior Member
Yea, I'm sure Pep would look at whoscored to see who plays in his team because Arthur registered 6.49 while playing for Ernesto fucking Valverde.
There is no point in arguing about it since we have different views on then. Stats is the most objective.
Pep LOVES D.Silva btw.
“He’s one of the most intelligent players moving in these small, small spaces. It's the most difficult thing. With space, everybody takes time so you can make a right decision, but he’s really good in the small spaces. One of the best I've ever known."
You are talking about juego de pos like D.Silva wants in the Spain team one of the best jdp teams ever.
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xXKonan
Senior Member
Pep plays Gundogan who is physically toast most of the time.
I would bet my ass off Pep would play FDJ over Rodri in an instant. He wanted him the most but at the time they were under the microscope and couldn't pull the trigger until they were clear and by the time that happened we snatched him up.
Only reason Pep went for Rodri was due the fact his first choice options were taken. FDJ alone is much more talented than Rodri is.
I would bet my ass off Pep would play FDJ over Rodri in an instant. He wanted him the most but at the time they were under the microscope and couldn't pull the trigger until they were clear and by the time that happened we snatched him up.
Only reason Pep went for Rodri was due the fact his first choice options were taken. FDJ alone is much more talented than Rodri is.
Sorin
Well-known member
The same suspects are at it again about the quality of the squad. Yeah and Slavia had a greater squad of players as well. As a matter of fact so did Bilbao, Osasuna, Betis and a bunch of other lower half teams last year when we were outplayed by fecking Leganes and Alaves at times.
Marshall D Teach
Well-known member
Funny how they never talk shit about Valverde's favorites aka the veterans who are the actual problem with the squad.
Sorin
Well-known member
That's a given. It would mean that they have to criticize their idol Valverde for his choices which is a no no.
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gregorrin10
Senior Member
Actually he's not. He's gonna be the perfect heir to Busquets in the Spain national team for the next decade.
xXKonan
Senior Member
Yeah I see it but in comparison to someone like FDJ, I don't think he's all that.
Well to be fair FDJ is a monster talent, so it will be hard to stack up.
Potroh
New member
Good Lord, how some people imagine a football game...
"The mighty war-lord-general is standing on the pitch in the middle, enthusing his soldiers with words and steary looks, in the locker-room he gives enthusiastic speeches - often mentioning the fruits of heaven - and the teammates are so frightened by the great leader, than they immediately double their skills on the pitch...".
(With the slight difference of course that the mighty general is not standing in the middle, because he rather prefers the soldiers to die, so he remains the last one...).
I kinda have the same feeling, but I would point to his physical limitstions as the main factor. At least since 2016. But Let's not. Forget Ronaldo playef alongside the greatest midfield in world football the 3 champions leauge winning seasons while our was maybe just barely top 10.
Normally we go for an agenda that Ronaldo is the selfish one of those two, which i dont disagree on, but ironically his play style does allow to get the full potential of other players, because players don't need to cover his limitstions (only speaking of recent 3 years).
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just like messi only won the ucl when he played alongside the two greatest midfielders of the 21st century and arguably the best midfield trio of all time.
he just has terrible leadership, the way he was force feeding suarez whilst ignoring other players runs (hint: dembele) just highlight this.
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
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I can imagine you are inundated with advertising because you seem highly susceptible to pr and marketing.
All of a sudden Superman Ronaldo would have fixed Satan Valverde and all his demonic faults?
If we are to treat Ronaldo and Messi the same then this forum would be blaming our inevitable CL exits with the hypothetical Ronaldo on his selfishness, his constant shooting, lack of passing to open teammates, his LACK OF LEADERSHIP not being happy when anyone else scores.
Which would all be as absurd as the reasons being thrown at Messi by agenda driven experts who completely ignore the massive benefits of both players.
Messi was a different player back then. Not limited and the most complete player maybe in history. Would we have Messi anno 2007-2012, im sure we would have won champions leauge after 2015 maybe even more than once, but maybe lost a la liga also.
I hate Messis leadership qualities, he shouldnt even be captain here imo. Second or third maybe. But thats only a secondry problem. The main problem Are his physical/(mental?) limitstions (combined with other oldied limitstions of our starting players)
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