Lionel Messi - v7

kattanib

Well-known member
Where would this barcelona be this season without Messi? No copa win, la liga 4-5th place, higher loss against PSG. Doesnt feel the moment has already come to leave.

If we had Suarez while Messi left, the formation would have been much better with Griezman playing as a support behind Suarez. I say we definitely could have won the league
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
If we had Suarez while Messi left, the formation would have been much better with Griezman playing as a support behind Suarez. I say we definitely could have won the league

Just because Suarez did well at atletico doesnt mean he would have done the same at barca. We dont have such workhorses like atletico therewith he can relax in front of the box to receive the passes.
 

Sailor Mars

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If we had Suarez while Messi left, the formation would have been much better with Griezman playing as a support behind Suarez. I say we definitely could have won the league

LOL at thinking Suarez instead of Messi wins Barca the league this season. Stay off the weed-duh.
 

feggydinho

Senior Member
If we had Suarez while Messi left, the formation would have been much better with Griezman playing as a support behind Suarez. I say we definitely could have won the league

Maybe, we'll never know. had to get rid of either Messi or Suarez, as we couldn't have two players who hardly press
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Messi was definitely not the player with the main influence in our winning the Copa. Griezmann, Dembele etc played a vital part there too

In all honesty, I think as Barca fan we forgot what normal football looks like. You do not need a Messi to win, no one has a Messi.

You need a team that is dedicated and focused, players that make good decisions and follow instructions, and a solid manager and a leader of a captain. A classic 4-2-3-1 formation with a good finisher goes a long way
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

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Messi was definitely not the player with the main influence in our winning the Copa. Griezmann, Dembele etc played a vital part there too

Messi gave the assist for griemann for the 2-1 and the pre assist for the 2-2 against granada, he wasnt the only main man but one of them. I dont think we would have won without him.
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Just because Suarez did well at atletico doesnt mean he would have done the same at barca. We dont have such workhorses like atletico therewith he can relax in front of the box to receive the passes.

It has nothing to do with that. The issue with Messi is that he is a free player who takes no certain position .. that is great when Messi was at his prime but now its counter productive. This season for example it is impossible for us to play with a 4-2-3-1 formation because of two things: we dont have a striker, and Messi wont stick to CAM
 

soul24rage

Senior Member
It has nothing to do with that. The issue with Messi is that he is a free player who takes no certain position .. that is great when Messi was at his prime but now its counter productive. This season for example it is impossible for us to play with a 4-2-3-1 formation because of two things: we dont have a striker, and Messi wont stick to CAM

We are the team that scored the most in La Liga this season while conceding the most goals out of the top 4.

Offense is not what we should be mainly focusing on.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
It has nothing to do with that. The issue with Messi is that he is a free player who takes no certain position .. that is great when Messi was at his prime but now its counter productive. This season for example it is impossible for us to play with a 4-2-3-1 formation because of two things: we dont have a striker, and Messi wont stick to CAM

Its not like we have so many worldclass players in our team, over half of our starters are pure trash. Messi's goals, assists and pre assists have overshadowed a lot of weaknesses of this team.
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Cash this

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at the bank will you?

Stegen

Dest/Mingueza..Pique/Araujo..Lenglet..Alba
....................Busquets..DeJong.....................
Dembele...............Griezman................Pedri
...............................Suarez.............................

Would definitely be La Liga contender
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Stegen

Dest/Mingueza..Pique/Araujo..Lenglet..Alba
....................Busquets..DeJong.....................
Dembele...............Griezman................Pedri
...............................Suarez.............................

Would definitely be La Liga contender

Puuuh, Cardioman, Pedri, dembele, pique, lenglet, barca suarez probably too are definitely not title win level.
 

kattanib

Well-known member
We are the team that scored the most in La Liga this season while conceding the most goals out of the top 4.

Offense is not what we should be mainly focusing on.

What does that have to do with a 4231 formation? We cannot implement it for two reasons which I mentioned and non is our inability to score goals
 

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