Lionel Messi - v7

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Barto and his entourage need to fuck off asap, but so does a lot of players. No one should be safe. This decade after laporta was so turbulent that is unbelievable. From arguably the best team ever to being hammered by bayern 2 years after, then assembling arguably the best trio and deadliest attack of all time to this absolut shitshow. We need balance, we dont have it. This board has a neymar tattoo on their forehead and they would have it for the rest of eternity.

Laporta is so far from being the answer it is a farce.

The basics of what is needed is a board to come in and make the decisions to rebuild and anyone not happy can go.

Laporta would come back in and try to be everyones friend and publicise himself.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Well that’s because of the fans.

But his words are clear for me. You are the sporting department, you make the decisions and you take responsibility for them. Stop using my name for every move you make

He didn't use any names. He basically confirmed what everyone thought (or almost everyone, you can always count on some notorious EV supporters to miss the mark with this).

That a big reason for why EV was sacked was because of the poor match preparation and fitness. This was backed with data and numbers, with in game performances, with the frequent collapses in CL against teams who play with intensity, by the frequent days off, and now by players reporting that indeed the manager is not doing well in this area.

You saw us playing high energy football in the first half vs Levante? You saw us depleted, and players gasping for air after barely 40 mins and struggling to keep up the pace in the 2nd half? TEAM IS A MESS in terms of fitness. The evidence of this is abhorrent.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
His names is constantly being misused in Catalan media and it’s highly likely the club leaking it to the media because Cules won’t blame for anything.

Since the appointment of Tata to the failed chasing of Neymar this summer

What is being leaked?

The only person that brought Messi to the media discussion tonight is him.
 

Riordon

New member
He didn't use any names. He basically confirmed what everyone thought (or almost everyone, you can always count on some notorious EV supporters to miss the mark with this). That a big reason for why EV was sacked was because of the poor match preparation and fitness. This was backed with data and numbers, with in game performances, with the frequent collapses in CL against teams who play with intensity, by the frequent days off, and now by players reporting that indeed the manager is not doing well in this area.

I’m not talking about this incident but Messi’s “supposed” involvement in anything from coach appointment to transfers.

He is clearly tired of that and indicates that’s not his responsibility
 

Sailor Mars

Well-known member
What is being leaked?

The only person that brought Messi to the media discussion tonight is him.

I think he means some of those news like this past summer stating Messi wants Neymar only to return to Barca. Some people believe that the board makes up these headlines and tells the media to publish them.
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
Anyway, Messi is going to have to say something again in the coming days. To clarify what his position is exactly. This needs a Public Service Announcement type of statement.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I’m not talking about this incident but Messi’s “supposed” involvement in anything from coach appointment to transfers.

He is clearly tired of that and indicates that’s not his responsibility

So the media must be protecting Messi by blaming the 'French clan' for the complaints about training?

The media are distancing Messi from this.

Doesnt quite fit.
 

Riordon

New member
I think he means some of those news this past summer stating Messi wants Neymar only to return to Barca. Some people believe that the board makes up these headlines and tells the media to publish them.

I’m 100% sure it’s being leaked to MD and sport. Everything from Tata failed appointment to the failed transfers of Neymar is easily being hidden by “Messi backers it”

He is simply tired of it and want them to take responsibility
 

serghei

Senior Member
I’m not talking about this incident but Messi’s “supposed” involvement in anything from coach appointment to transfers.

He is clearly tired of that and indicates that’s not his responsibility

Nobody said it is his responsibility. If anything EV was sacked because HE WAS deemed as main responsible for the physical state of the team and poor match preparation. Abidal confirmed that.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I think he means some of those news like this past summer stating Messi wants Neymar only to return to Barca. Some people believe that the board makes up these headlines and tells the media to publish them.

The media reported more than Messi wanting him and I would say that it was accurate.

How is that anything aimed at Messi?
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
I’m 100% sure it’s being leaked to MD and sport. Everything from Tata failed appointment to the failed transfers of Neymar is easily being hidden by “Messi backers it”

He is simply tired of it and want them to take responsibility

Catalan newspapers are the biggest defenders of Messi, what on Earth are you talking about? The man is a God there. it's usually Marca or As that come up with conspiracies.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I’m 100% sure it’s being leaked to MD and sport. Everything from Tata failed appointment to the failed transfers of Neymar is easily being hidden by “Messi backers it”

He is simply tired of it and want them to take responsibility

That was coming from Brazilian press as much as anything and was not just Messi said to want him to return.

There was no leaked stories to target Messi for any reason there.

Do you think media are protecting Messi by blaming the 'French clan' tonight?
 

FCBfan22

Senior Member
I’m not talking about this incident but Messi’s “supposed” involvement in anything from coach appointment to transfers.

He is clearly tired of that and indicates that’s not his responsibility

Why does then he want some players to be called out?

Even if he doesn't want the media to call him out anymore, the last sentance in his post is incredibly stupid, especially since he is the captain of the team.
 

Sailor Mars

Well-known member
The media reported more than Messi wanting him and I would say that it was accurate.

How is that anything aimed at Messi?

It is aimed at Messi because the board uses his name to justify any big decisions they make. They're not necessarily attacking him, but using his name to placate the fans for any board decision.
 

Riordon

New member
What do you want Messi to clarify? Made it pretty clear. Asks the board to take responsibility for its decisions (not just this Valverde case) and questions Abidal statement regarding the players unsatisfied with training. Name them if they even exist. Might be a big lie from Abidal to justify the firing and blame it on the players, not the board.
 

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