Lionel Messi - v7

Givenchy

Senior Member
With Messi and his friends it has been the same old listless and lifeless rut, lacking motivations and efforts and almost everything it takes to win football games these days. They are only relying on moments of brilliance and trickery here and there and those are starting to dwindle too, expectedly with them aging. With Messi and his friends we will always like this deadwood, no matter who is in charge. I suspect not even Pep can turn things around.

I hope we don?t foolishly offer Messi a big bump in his new contract. I?d rather see him walk at the end of this contract and we start anew. A total reboot.

ofcourse we will.. no board is going to sanction Messi leaving
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
Thats why its weird.Messi clearly isnt happy and is sulking on the pitch.
But I wonder who is mad at though? Board for getting rid of Valverde? The ebabler who shoukd have been fired after Rome.
- the mediocre teammates? Doesnt look like it snd he prefers them over them leaving?

Why be mad if you helped create this situation?
I mean what do you expect to happen?
Of course its going to go bad either way if you dont stand begind the longterm best interest of the club.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
Made up a lot of shit there.

Well played.

Who has ever said this.....'Messi supporting Ernesto "#thecancer" Valverde, so he is to blame for the team playing badly and losing the CL in 2019'

Quote it.

Serghei.. multiple times. Will not bother to find you a quote.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Thats why its weird.Messi clearly isnt happy and is sulking on the pitch.
But I wonder who is mad at though? Board for getting rid of Valverde? The ebabler who shoukd have been fired after Rome.
- the mediocre teammates? Doesnt look like it snd he prefers them over them leaving?

Why be mad if you helped create this situation?
I mean what do you expect to happen?
Of course its going to go bad either way if you dont stand begind the longterm best interest of the club.

Exactly, Messi complains about things he created. I don't think he understands that those comfy years with Valverde cost any intensity this team had. It says something when FDJ hires personal physical coach to keep up his physical condition!! This team is in terrible shape.

Not to mention sulking. He needs to be the role model for others when you are the captain. Not drop your head Everytime you frack up.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
You forgot the latest scenario cooked up by JamDav - top coach doesn't want the job because Messi is in ths club and if he would join the trophies/glory would be all on Messi.
Really can't make this shit up :lol:

I say we crucify Messi tomorrow, in front of the Camp Nou and purge the club of this demon that sucks yhe life out of it!

Nope I said no top coach will touch the job with powerful group of amigos that leave team inflexible and yes Messi is part of that.

No top coach will come to Barca until those lot are gone and yes all glory is given to Messi when do win.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Thats why its weird.Messi clearly isnt happy and is sulking on the pitch.
But I wonder who is mad at though? Board for getting rid of Valverde? The ebabler who shoukd have been fired after Rome.
- the mediocre teammates? Doesnt look like it snd he prefers them over them leaving?

Why be mad if you helped create this situation?
I mean what do you expect to happen?
Of course its going to go bad either way if you dont stand begind the longterm best interest of the club.

Exactly. It is incredible to see a grown men in his 30’s sulking like he did. He needs to grow up and men up, he has been pampered with everything, he is in no position to sulk whatsoever.
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
Messi supporting Ernesto "#thecancer" Valverde, so he is to blame for the team playing badly and losing the CL in 2019.
Messi criticised our level of play, and that's why EV was sacked - even though he supported him.
Messi wants his bff to always play, so he is to blame for the team playing badly - his BFF has scored 15 goals.
Messi ignores the coaches and plays wherever he wants, so he is to blame for the teams bad shape and lack of movement.
Messi doesn't defend and walks around aimlessly. That's why we conceed a lot but don't score goals.
Messi plays too deep and hinders our other midfielders' "creativity" - midfielders like Rakitic, Vidal, Busquets and Sergi Roberto, all great assist men and line breakers.
Messi plays too far right, and doesn't get involved because he is sulking and doesn't make runs to receive amazing balls from said midfielders.
Messi is a bad captain, that's why Barca post Xavi and Iniesta started declining.
Hey, also freaking Argentina declined because he became the captain, did you know?
Messi doens't like Griezmann, doens't pass to him on purpose and that's why Griezmann has been poor.
He controls our lineups and transfer policies, as it is evident, since he wanted Griezmann to come - and he did - even if he doesn't like him, he decided that he should join, only to not pass to him out of spite.

These are only a little portion of the things that are being said around here about Messi.

Check out the negative things said about:
- Busquets: He was always slow, but is too slow now to be playing a CDM at a high level. He is ok for smaller games.
- Vidal: He is too aggressive and leaves many open spaces. Has a bad first touch and bad close passing.
- Rakitic: He is constantly hiding and always back passes. He has also become too slow.
- Suarez: He is too fat / slow. He doesn't make many runs. He misplaces a ton of passes and breaks up the build up. He is Messi's friend.

Spot the difference?
A lot of things are wrong. especially him hindering misfielders or be the cause of Argentina's decline.
Without Messi Argentina would not qualify for cups and Barca would compete to qualify for EL.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Nope I said no top coach will touch the job with powerful group of amigos that leave team inflexible and yes Messi is part of that.

No top coach will come to Barca until those lot are gone and yes all glory is given to Messi when do win.

True even Xavi demands total control and new team. No big name coach would want to touch this hot potato. Basically they can only lose.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Messi deserves his share of the blame for our woeful performances and his own bad stretch/body language but Jamdav and Tackle are in here working over time with some absolutely bizarre claims.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
Messi deserves his share of the blame for our woeful performances and his own bad stretch but Jamdav and Tackle are in here working over time with some absolutely bizarre claims.

Yes! That's my point too.. Of course there is blame to be shared - there is a lot of it.
But they are really working overtime - and then some.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Yes! That's my point too.. Of course there is blame to be shared - there is a lot of it.
But they are really working overtime - and then some.

You are working over time making shit up so hardly one to talk up.

Whole host of players, coach and board are being spoken about but you cant handle Messi being part of it.
 

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
messi clearly didn't show any sort of urgency, movement or internest until his pets alba and suarez came onto the field. that was disgraceful
 

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